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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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You don't need the PCV, but you do need the larger breather port toward the front of the head. Look at the diameter of the pcv itself in your hand and then explain to me how it 'vents' enough pressure compared to the front breather. PCV is emissions ONLY. Front breather vents pressure
Front port is a way for fresh filtered air to enter the motor.
PCV is under a vacuum by the manifold which assists greatly in exhausting moisture, fuel and whatever else that might be a vapor.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, front breather to vented catch can. No need for PCV. Very one has their opinion, whether or not it makes sense is another opinion.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE
Originally Posted by macr88' timestamp='1424291369' post='23510882
[quote name='JUSTINTHECOASTIE' timestamp='1424266923' post='23510266']
You don't need the PCV, but you do need the larger breather port toward the front of the head. Look at the diameter of the pcv itself in your hand and then explain to me how it 'vents' enough pressure compared to the front breather. PCV is emissions ONLY. Front breather vents pressure
Front port is a way for fresh filtered air to enter the motor.
PCV is under a vacuum by the manifold which assists greatly in exhausting moisture, fuel and whatever else that might be a vapor.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, front breather to vented catch can. No need for PCV. Very one has their opinion, whether or not it makes sense is another opinion.
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no worries, just didn't want other people getting confused on the natural flow direction.

If you choose to only vent with the front breather and it works for you then fantastic but I can guarantee you that it won't work for everyone. I tried that same setup and I still ended up loosing oil through the front breather.
It's definitely worth a try, not all cars are equal, kinda like how some people don't even have this issue.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by macr88
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[quote name='macr88' timestamp='1424291369' post='23510882']
[quote name='JUSTINTHECOASTIE' timestamp='1424266923' post='23510266']
You don't need the PCV, but you do need the larger breather port toward the front of the head. Look at the diameter of the pcv itself in your hand and then explain to me how it 'vents' enough pressure compared to the front breather. PCV is emissions ONLY. Front breather vents pressure
Front port is a way for fresh filtered air to enter the motor.
PCV is under a vacuum by the manifold which assists greatly in exhausting moisture, fuel and whatever else that might be a vapor.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, front breather to vented catch can. No need for PCV. Very one has their opinion, whether or not it makes sense is another opinion.
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no worries, just didn't want other people getting confused on the natural flow direction.

If you choose to only vent with the front breather and it works for you then fantastic but I can guarantee you that it won't work for everyone. I tried that same setup and I still ended up loosing oil through the front breather.
It's definitely worth a try, not all cars are equal, kinda like how some people don't even have this issue.
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Old May 24, 2015 | 09:34 AM
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How long does a right hander have to be for oil to get out spit out like this?
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Old May 27, 2015 | 05:10 AM
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its not really the duration as much as it is the G load. Perhaps, at anything greater than 1 g it can become an issue and elevation changes dont help it.
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Old May 27, 2015 | 10:06 AM
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Figured I would add my data point. I removed the PCV from my 2006 AP2 valve cover and installed an AN fitting and then ran a 1/2" hose to a vented catch can. I didn't catch any oil during an entire track weekend. I then ran a 1/2" hose from the breather to my catch can so that I had both the PCV and breather run to the same vented catch can, and I caught about half a quart in 4 sessions. So the oil is definitely only coming out of the breather when on track. I am wondering if plugging the breather and instead only running a hose from the PCV location to the vented catch can will still allow the crankcase to breathe enough.
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Old May 27, 2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by King Tut
Figured I would add my data point. I removed the PCV from my 2006 AP2 valve cover and installed an AN fitting and then ran a 1/2" hose to a vented catch can. I didn't catch any oil during an entire track weekend. I then ran a 1/2" hose from the breather to my catch can so that I had both the PCV and breather run to the same vented catch can, and I caught about half a quart in 4 sessions. So the oil is definitely only coming out of the breather when on track. I am wondering if plugging the breather and instead only running a hose from the PCV location to the vented catch can will still allow the crankcase to breathe enough.
nothing personal to you, but it can get super frustrating, when people don't just research and understand the way the systems work. My recommendation is the same as its always been. Keep all the plumbing the same, just add two catch cans in the middle of it all to both the PCV and the breather. No vents, no open to air, no plugs... Just normal.
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Old May 27, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by davidc1
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Figured I would add my data point. I removed the PCV from my 2006 AP2 valve cover and installed an AN fitting and then ran a 1/2" hose to a vented catch can. I didn't catch any oil during an entire track weekend. I then ran a 1/2" hose from the breather to my catch can so that I had both the PCV and breather run to the same vented catch can, and I caught about half a quart in 4 sessions. So the oil is definitely only coming out of the breather when on track. I am wondering if plugging the breather and instead only running a hose from the PCV location to the vented catch can will still allow the crankcase to breathe enough.
nothing personal to you, but it can get super frustrating, when people don't just research and understand the way the systems work. My recommendation is the same as its always been. Keep all the plumbing the same, just add two catch cans in the middle of it all to both the PCV and the breather. No vents, no open to air, no plugs... Just normal.
I fully understand the way the systems work. I prefer a vented solution.
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Old May 27, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by King Tut
I fully understand the way the systems work. I prefer a vented solution.
^What he said.
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Old May 28, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by King Tut
Figured I would add my data point. I removed the PCV from my 2006 AP2 valve cover and installed an AN fitting and then ran a 1/2" hose to a vented catch can. I didn't catch any oil during an entire track weekend. I then ran a 1/2" hose from the breather to my catch can so that I had both the PCV and breather run to the same vented catch can, and I caught about half a quart in 4 sessions. So the oil is definitely only coming out of the breather when on track. I am wondering if plugging the breather and instead only running a hose from the PCV location to the vented catch can will still allow the crankcase to breathe enough.


Have you already drilled the baffle inside the valve cover? I was going to try venting both breathers to a catch can and drilling the baffle...
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