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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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even though I do TT now, i prefer to go W2W. I've run spec miata for a few years and used to race ITB. TT is great cause I can use my street car. no trailer, etc. For NASA nationals, I'll probably borrow a truck/trailer, but I'll be sleeping there and hauling 2 sets of tires.

I hate to sound pessimistic, but if it's not w2w, it sounds like too much work to me. The S2000 is going to get 7-15pts for 2007 in NASA TT, so I doubt I'll be racing it next year in TT. I can just get something else.

With W2W in NASA we can do our own spec series and then race in PTD or PTC depending on were the mods put us.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by loudes13,Jun 14 2006, 06:35 AM
even though I do TT now, i prefer to go W2W.
As much as I agree with w2w being WAY better, I can't see making my car a racecar for just this series which may or may not take off. The s2k isn't that competitive in SCCA T2, and I hate the look of a full cage on the street, even if I change between Hard Top and ST. BTW, I'm assuming that w2w would require a ht?
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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I was assuming this was W2W, but if its TT then I don't get why we can't just use the well established S2000 Challenge rules. Or is this an additional class to the S2000 Challenge?
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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Drew's original post is for a TT series that would form the basis for a W2W series in '08 or '09.

I think the discussion so far is showing that SpecS2K as proposed isn't suited for TT, or at least, is no better than the existing S2K Challenge classes.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Thinking about it more, I'm starting to worry that a SpecS2K series of any form would just dilute the S2000 community further. There already exists a good TT series (S2000 challenge), and there are at least three W2W series out there (SCCA HC and T2, NASA ECHC), all with slightly different rules. We clearly don't need a fourth.

For time trials, I think a national-level series could be formed that simply adopts the existing S2000 Challenge rules. Basically, we declare that any track event, anywhere, is eligible for points, and limit competitors to their best N results. The current event-points system, which is dependent on the number of people who show up to an event, is perfectly suited to this. Then results are compiled here on S2Ki (perhaps in a new sub-forum of R&C?).

For W2W, I think sticking with NASA and SCCA sanctioning bodies is probably best, since they have clear, established safety regs and the resources to inspect cars accordingly. Not to mention, they have the ability to get good tracks on good dates. Establishing a new, national-level SpecS2K series seems overly ambitious right now.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by twohoos,Jun 14 2006, 11:21 AM
Thinking about it more, I'm starting to worry that a SpecS2K series of any form would just dilute the S2000 community further. There already exists a good TT series (S2000 challenge), and there are at least three W2W series out there (SCCA HC and T2, NASA ECHC), all with slightly different rules. We clearly don't need a fourth.

For time trials, I think a national-level series could be formed that simply adopts the existing S2000 Challenge rules. Basically, we declare that any track event, anywhere, is eligible for points, and limit competitors to their best N results. The current event-points system, which is dependent on the number of people who show up to an event, is perfectly suited to this. Then results are compiled here on S2Ki (perhaps in a new sub-forum of R&C?).

For W2W, I think sticking with NASA and SCCA sanctioning bodies is probably best, since they have clear, established safety regs and the resources to inspect cars accordingly. Not to mention, they have the ability to get good tracks on good dates. Establishing a new, national-level SpecS2K series seems overly ambitious right now.


I'm in for any East Coast S2000 Challenge time-trials. And if any West Coasters want to return the favor, I'll offer my car for a co-drive.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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yeah why can't the EC guys start TT'ing using the Challenge classing and pick some track org who's willing to let them run timing?

Tho I don't agree that there isn't room for a spec2k w2w series. Cheaper than honda-cup/ite and better racing than T2.

Like spec miata, but faster.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by krazik,Jun 14 2006, 10:14 AM
Tho I don't agree that there isn't room for a spec2k w2w series.
Like I said earlier, I think the car will be ripe for it as soon as the prices drop a little bit more. The key will be the engine availability.

I've never quite understood the rationale behind running S2000s in a class with other Hondas. The car is dramatically different than anything else Honda makes.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by twohoos,Jun 14 2006, 08:21 AM
For time trials, I think a national-level series could be formed that simply adopts the existing S2000 Challenge rules.

Being on the East coast, I have no exposure to the SV series, but the rules look good. Let's pick those up, and see if we can regionally choose which events we want to try to hit - so there is more than one car.
For w2w, i wish i was over there on the west coast so i could partake. I dare say there would be only me in Florida.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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...And I love the idea of East coast -west coast ride swapping! There would need to be some interesting written agreements beforehand (fix what you break), but I might fly west to race if I didn't need to bring my car.



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