Ry thinks a spec series for timetrialing isn't gonna work.

Spec2k w2w is another story but there aren't enuf people for that.

 

If your brakes start giving out, you usually end up off the track or in somebody's bumper. If your street tires start giving out, you just corner a little slower and have to wait a little longer to get on the gas.

Since it is easier to feel street tires giving out than it is to feel R-compounds giving out, it helps develop the driver's feel for his own grip level, and it does so at lower (safer) speeds. But hey, everyone finds their own path.

 

Mike agrees with both of those. But when the cost of a good S2000 drops below 10K, watch out! I think W2W will take off once the cars get cheap enough -- as long as the engines remain available.

 

btw I believe and always maintained.

Street tires make you a better driver because you learn to extract the full potentional at lower speeds. Race tires make you faster.

If you can drive and maintain street tires at their maximum grip and keep the car in that narrow window, you'll be better able to push a race time to its limit and maintain it there. If you're not good enuf to begin the extra speed of r-comps makes doing that a lot harder for most drivers.

That being said, I think the spec s2k series should be on an r-comp.

 

[QUOTE=krazik,Jun 13 2006, 11:59 AM] btw I believe and always maintained.

Street tires make you a better driver because you learn to extract the full potentional at lower speeds.

 

even with ra1's fast guys will buy a couple sets a summer. tires and suspension are small potatoes when you add up the costs of w2w. My IT budget was $1000 per weekend, and I camped at the track.

 

That's why I feel $3-4K for go fast parts is an acceptable barrier for TT entry.
Although w2w is much faster, more exciting, the barrier is many multiples of that when you factor in truck, trailer, and effectively losing your street car for a dozen or so events a year.

TT makes more sense for people who don't want to commit to all that a W2W series demands...yet. And the mods are things most plan to buy or already own due to their seemingly incessantly primal GF Crack addiction. They are also relatively easy modifications to reverse vs. adding a full cage and gutting a car.

 

Hey guys,
I'm a southeast coaster who would love for this to happen, with some kind of a runoff at the end of the year since we will be pretty spread out. Anyway, I have a few comments:
-Someone mentioned a two class series. As I read the entire thread this morning, it was obvious there were two distinct views. Two classes works great in NASA for muscle cars. they have a low mod class (like Astock) and an extreme class based on points. Why not make it open for both types by seperating into spec s2k and s2k xtreme.? As many people do, I run AS in autox and would love to take my s2k to TT. I'm doing one this weekend with NASA. A side question - has anyone run autox tires at the track? I'm thinking one or two laps hard , then a cool down,...
-I hate to use street tires, but I must admit that the stock class would attract a lot more people if you let them drive to the track without worrying about how to get tires there. Xtreme obviously would be R comp.
-I wouldn't mind trying to rally people in the SE. I would probably try to work with NASA to keep the cost down, but there are other clubs that would be options. I only know one other s2k owner down here that has enough experience to run TT, but maybe others could work up to it...

Bill

 

I'm posting my interest in a S2000 TT series. I haven't read all the post's but for me it would need to to a low cost regional thing then maybe one national event.

Wing = No
RCompound = Yes

Everything else is just details.

 

Take a look at the current S2K Challenge through Speedventures.

STOCK class-stockish- mostly new guys
MOD class-up to ~200 points of mods - mostly street cars
UNLIMITED class- anything goes (like ITE) mostly race cars

This series would have cars prepped somewhere between STOCK and MOD with drivers hopefully from all 3 classes.