AP1 vs AP2
Originally Posted by JDMpearlwhyteZ,Jan 19 2011, 02:57 PM
weights per year according to edmunds.com
2000 AP1 = 2,808lbs
2001 AP1 = 2,808lbs
2002 AP1 = 2,810lbs
2003 AP1 = 2,810lbs
2004 AP2 = 2,835lbs
2005 AP2 = 2,835lbs
2006 AP2 = 2,855lbs
2007 AP2 = 2,855lbs
i see a trend here.. as more features were added obviously weight went up as well.. (passenger seat air bag sensor.. etc etc..)
the car became more livable and up to date.. ap2 > ap1
2000 AP1 = 2,808lbs
2001 AP1 = 2,808lbs
2002 AP1 = 2,810lbs
2003 AP1 = 2,810lbs
2004 AP2 = 2,835lbs
2005 AP2 = 2,835lbs
2006 AP2 = 2,855lbs
2007 AP2 = 2,855lbs
i see a trend here.. as more features were added obviously weight went up as well.. (passenger seat air bag sensor.. etc etc..)
the car became more livable and up to date.. ap2 > ap1

Originally Posted by hypforlife32,Jan 20 2011, 12:27 AM
i have driven both ap1 and ap2, i like the ap2 tranny better and personally i think an ap1 would be a lot better with an ap2 trans. the gears in a ap1 are much much longer...way to long for an na car. 1-4 on an ap2 is 102mph. my top of 4th on ap2v1's is 119-120mph...stock rev limit. honestley, its personaly preference. to each there own. i love my ap1. my and my friend cruise around almost every other day and when we had the EXACT SAME MODS on both cars, from 40-120 was a drivers race, but all the 20mph rolls i always won by 1/2 car-1 car by 120.
but im assuming your friend has an ap2??
i pulled my cousin's ap1 with exhaust after 120 with my ap2 with test pipe (at the time)
and we went from 60mph.. when i went into 5th he pulled on me hard.. but when he shifted its like the car lost its balls and i won by half a car by 130..
Originally Posted by JDMpearlwhyteZ,Jan 19 2011, 11:08 PM
ap1's really could use the extra displacement imo..
spoon made the f20 stroker kit for a reason..
and honda made the f22c1 for a reason.. bigger is better
spoon made the f20 stroker kit for a reason..
and honda made the f22c1 for a reason.. bigger is better

I like the added trq of the F22. But FI is best.
As has been shown in the i-vtec conversion kit thread.
IF Honda had just added variable cam timing to the f20c, it would've put out as much power as the f22 and nearly as much torque while having a much broader powerband.
IF Honda had just added variable cam timing to the f20c, it would've put out as much power as the f22 and nearly as much torque while having a much broader powerband.
Originally Posted by Jacksparrow,Jan 20 2011, 05:46 AM
ap2 is a neutered version of the ap1, looks the same but lost its balls.
Permanent ban!!

Damn ap2 haters.. Don't let me see y'all rocking our headlights and bumpers!! Lol






