Natedogg...you sure your E brake wasen't up when you raced the rx-late..? Two of my friends have rx-8's, 6 speed's, and we have run several times, ALLLLLL with the same results...The S WALKING AWAY EASILY...And not just my S, my friend has a black 02 S which had almost the exact same results...the S would walk away EASILYYYYY from any gear from a roll! Just to see the difference I put my car in 3rd gear and 1 of my friends in his rx8 droped down to 2nd and we did a 40mph run...Soon as we steped down he started inching ahead by about 3/4 a car, then soon as VTEC came on I cought and passed him with no problem at all. And both there cars were broken in.

The Acura RSX type S would put it on an RX-LATE from a roll...that seems to be a bit closer of a race, rather then an S2k...!

 

RX8's in my experience... have been slow. Maybe with a high rpm launch they'll be that much more competitive but from a roll, they do seem kind of sluggish.

 

I have to call on this because Quik's S is very slow due to all those c/f pieces making it slower.

 

I never raced a RX-8 but I did mess around with my friend's evo and that was pretty much a close race. I had my 00 with intake and exhaust and he had a BOV. 2nd and 3rd gear it was almost nose to nose but he started pulling on me just a little, we let off after that.

There is no way you can say that the S is a mid 14 second car. Maybe the 04 because its slower but my 2000 ran 13's all day. 13.8 stock and 13.7 with an HKS exhaust. The bad runs were 14.0 and 14.1 never close to 15, except one time, when i missed 2nd and then missed 3rd, stepped on the brake, and then cruised down the track, i think that was a 15.4, same time i got in my 79hp CRX.

Get your facts straight about S2000 1/4 mile times, the magazines underrate it.

 

Maybe you should get your facts straight. The S2K doesn't run 13's all day long! And those that have managed to get in the high 13's are also abusing the clutch and diff in order to get those times! Or, they are running different gears or a supercharger!

The car mags are usually right on and they have access to better tracks, perfect weather conditions and expert drivers. The S2K is rated at 14.0-14.5 in most of the mags. I've seen NUMEROUS S2K drivers run mid-to-high 14's at the track all damn day stock or with minor mods (exhaust/intake). Only a few have actually hit 14.0-14.2. So I guess they are all bad drivers and you are one of the best drivers in the world.

And the EVO was barely ahead of you? Hmmm...sounds like a driver issue, as the EVO is much faster than the S2K. Sorry to spoil your wet dream.

It doesn't even matter because unless you can back it up, it's all just a bunch of internet

I think many people have "illusions of grandeur" on the web and especially in any forum's "race kills" section. Some of you crack me up. And half of you don't even own a S2K or any of these other cars.

 

Dean and I will be racing Stock s2000 vs stock rx8 soon enough, video footage will accompany the whole thing, maybe a couple different angles at that too. Albeit my s2k has 80k miles to his new Rx8 but the outcome should still be the same. We are going to go at it from a roll as we do not want to blow diffs or anything like that.

 

Try to be as accurate as possible with speed from a roll and having someone start the race and be able to watch the end result to find the clear cut winner. Also, you should switch cars. Just be sure that someone doesn't "fix" the race by not trying hard enough so one car looks better than the other.

I'm sure the S2K will win. I know it's a quicker car than the RX8. But it's not as quick as some people fantasy about. A good driver in an RX8 should manage to stay close to the S2K.

A two-to-three car length advantage is easily .5 - 1.5 seconds quicker. So if the S2K runs 14.0, the RX8 should run 14.5-15.5, which is what the car magazines report. So we'll see if it's true. Then again, you're racing from a roll, and to get a true measure, it should be on the track (1/4 mile).

 

Do us all a favor and shut up!! 1st you think the rx-8 and s2k are a close race, A close race isn't 4+ car lengths from 2nd-4th gear!! Now you are saying that the EVO isn't even close in performance to an s2k...Why don't YOU stop magazine racing and get some real life experience!

Oh and yes the S2000 is a high 13 second car ALL DAY LONG! With a good driver...Problem is some people don't know how to properly launch an s2k...and when it comes to a 1/4 mile, the launch can be everything...and on the street some people don't start in the right gear, thus giving the car a bad rep. Do you own an s2000?? Cause you disappoint me if you do.

The s2k is not an easy car to perfect...and yes I admit it takes a perfect run to get into the 13's, but that dosen't mean the car isn't capable of running 13's all day...just that driver isn't capable.

 

Blessed,

I think the term "all day long" that nate is using is what is throwing everyone for a loop. He may be able to run high 13s all day but S2000s in general run 14s all day IMO. Maybe the times I have improved.

The problem with comparing cars like the S2k is the driver makes more of a difference than in a high torque car which is easier to drive.

Lets say the S2k is 13.5 - 15.0 (and I have seen lots of people run as high as 15.0)

If he races a car which can consistently run a 14.1 (like a z) then the S2k might win or lose depending on the driver.

I personally dont see how a S2000 can beat an evo 8 with any consistently but it certainly is possible.

Dean

 

Well said.