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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Normal S2000s get the lighter silver painted wheels. CRs get a darker silver paint named Kaiser Metallic.

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Can someone scan the article in PDF and post it on there??

I tried so many newstands, book stores and yet to find the Sport Car Mag.

Thanks....!!
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ks320,Sep 14 2007, 01:12 PM
Of course, too much roll can also be a problem, because the inner wheel(s) tend to have little to no contact with the road under hard cornering, and the car also transfers too much weight to the outter wheel under hard cornering --
Common misconception, but untrue. Weight transfer in cornering is a function of c.g. height and track. Stiffer sway bars don't reduce weight transfer. In fact, a stiffer bar at one end of the car will increase lateral weight transfer at that end of the car (will load the outside wheel more and unload the inside wheel more).

Here's a pic of my 240Z lifting the inside front. It has a 1" front bar and no rear bar (hadda remove it to regain balance after increasing front camber and decreasing rear toe):

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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[QUOTE=ZDan,Sep 17 2007, 06:19 PM]Common misconception, but untrue.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Sep 17 2007, 06:43 PM
A car that is stiffer all around, will have less roll, and quicker weight transfer, but the total amount of weight transfer will not change if the suspension of softened and the body allowed to roll more (or vice versa). Make one end stiffer relative to the other end, and the stiffer end will carry more of the weight transfer. In addition to CG and track, total weight transfer is also a function of grip. At higher cornering speeds the forces are higher and more total weight is transferred. The S2000's tend to lift the inside rear wheel after R compound tires are installed, due to the stiff rear anti-roll bar. Too much weight is being transferred off the inside rear tire, and a softer bar, which also allows more roll, is one way to keep the tire more planted. The others are to stiffen the front bar and/or springs or go to softer rear springs.

IOW, a car that corners at 1G and transfers 60% of its weight to the outside tires when cornering will transfer exactly the same percentage of its weight to the outside tires regardless of how much the body rolls (up to a point ). To reduce total weight transfer you can either increase the track, lower the CG, or corner at a slower speed (use less grippy tires).
Wow ... learn something new everyday! Didn't know that hehe

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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[QUOTE=Ks320,Sep 17 2007, 07:21 PM]Wow ... learn something new everyday!
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Sep 13 2007, 05:21 PM
Please try to stick to positive comments.
Proton.

The set of counting numbers.

Cathode.

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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i'd love to have the CR
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 17 2007, 05:38 PM
Proton.

The set of counting numbers.

Cathode.

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