Who cares... It's still a friggin civic with an interior straight from the moon

I took one look at the new Si sedan (I have 3 kids, and it is the logical choice) and that was all it took. There is no way I could get used to that A-pillar, the controls, and the base of the windshield must be nearly 5 feet from my face. The seats feel like they strateched sweatpants over foam, etc... cheap-cheap-cheap and FUGLY!

So the kids have to ride one at a time in the S2k, but i'm smilin all the time!

The Si is easily modded for more power, but... it is still a civic. S2K no regrets!

 

You guys are forgetting that the new cars are all rated with the new SAE Horsepower standard, thats how the dyno ratings could be a little bit higher than expected for a 197 crank hp car because the 197 is a little bit underrated compared to the old horsepower ratings. Its probably closer to 206hp, which with a 10-15% drivetrain loss would put it within 175-185whp depending on the dyno and conditions etc.

Not sure about the bone stock Si with 200whp, could also be underrated or a factory freak. We've also seen AP2 S2000s run 240whp (see vtec.net) so its possible that the dyno is reading incorrectly.

 

i agree with your opinion that the seats feel like they have sweatpants stretched over them. but other than that, the interior is pretty nice feeling, and it is very well laid out. i DD'ed an 06 Si for a year and loved it. but i came to it from an S2000, so i always wanted it to be faster.

 

the day stock civic si beats s2k is the day i'm done with honda

 

The day a FWD car is as much fun to drive as a RWD car is the day I'll consider comparing cars like a Civic and an S2000. Isn't this like comparing apples and catapaults?

 

I pulled soooooooo much on one without launching.

 

true dat.

 

Have you driven one? I drove the coupe and it's very fun not only for a FWD, but for any car. More fun than driving a G35c, but definitely not more fun than an S2000.

 

 

I haven't driven the new Si, but I have owned a number of FWD cars that were modified for autocrossing, so it's not that I don't realize how much fun a FWD car can be. It's just that (to me at least) they're never nearly as much fun as a good RWD car. Same same for AWD. The R32 and R33 Skylines are a gas to drive, and quicker than stink, but I can have more fun in a Spridget. Haven't driven a G35 either, but they're just not the kind of car that attracts me, because, like the Skylines, they're just too massive. I've always loved small RWD cars, and the smaller, the better.

FWIW, to me, the CRX Si and Prelude Si we owned back in the 80's were more fun to drive than *most* of the Nissan and Toyota cars I've driven.