2007 Honda s2000 blown engine STOCK
"I was promised by every personnel at the dealership that the vehicle went through a '150-point inspection upon delivery.'"
That could mean anything unless it's in writing. I just gave my keyboard a 158 point inspection. All of the keys required to make this post are functional.
That could mean anything unless it's in writing. I just gave my keyboard a 158 point inspection. All of the keys required to make this post are functional.
Originally Posted by dammitjim,Mar 11 2010, 03:43 PM
That could mean anything unless it's in writing.
The keyboard comment is pretty asinine btw unless you're trying to say you have a Honda Certified used keyboard.
Originally Posted by USMCkang,Mar 10 2010, 07:47 PM
Also, the dealership was in Costa Mesa, California. In Orange county by Newport Beach.
they bought car off auction and claims no accident (always), but when I found out paint/fix evidence they change their word ... they do not do honest busniess as they will tell me he will sell me this price, then later the will change the price (+3k more) just because many one is calling and ask, then he will blame on upgraded brake system .. (it only has god-damx drilled rotor upgrade) ...
Originally Posted by dammitjim,Mar 11 2010, 03:37 PM
So if the dealer sells a used Buick and they give it a Buick CPO inspection does that make it a certified used Buick?
Acura doesn't certify used Hondas. Acura certifies used Acuras. If an Acura dealer does a 150 point inspection on a used Acura, that doesn't mean that car is magically a CPO Acura.
Acura doesn't certify used Hondas. Acura certifies used Acuras. If an Acura dealer does a 150 point inspection on a used Acura, that doesn't mean that car is magically a CPO Acura.
Alright update fellas, NOW it's getting hilarious-
So they are now downplaying the fact that I 'over-revved' and the GM is actually cooperating in the investigation which led to the seizure of my engine. They didn't offer to take the motor apart to find what's wrong, he claimed it was 800$ and he wasn't going to pay to see it apart. I also snuck up today to get some stuff out of the car and heard a tech talking to the GM about the car - his exact words were during redline or harsh driving, the car can burn oil which can lead to a small amount of oil in the car which led to the seizure of the motor through oil starvation. This claim steers me out of the clear for over-revving the motor.
Now I got one question; they told me they would lift the motor up and take off the oil pan to look up at the cylinders. Now I'm not too good with cars so I wouldn't know what to look for but if there is damage there can it be attested to anything I could've done to the car? Is the lack of oil going to be able to be the single primary cause to the seizure of the motor and damage to the cylinders, if any?
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Ok, it gets even more hilarious - They said they had a 20 year veteran honda tech try to pull ECU codes from the car. He "CLAIMED" it was a 50/50 chance to pull these codes. The GM claimed that these codes could NOT be pulled. I sat there and got so frustrated I told him that there's no 50/50 chance to pull these codes, they're there, unless you dumped the ecu. This is going to turn into a circus if they do not fix my car.
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Lastly, can anyone here in socal refer me to a tech who knows about s2k's? I'd like to have them there when they pull the oil pan to check the cylinders for damages. If they see damage there and then pull the 'over-rev' card on me again I'm going to need an expert to tell there to justify it with the oil problem if it has anything to do with it.
Thanks in advance
PS I thought 06+ S2k's had the ecu readout right before it dies no matter what? Please keep me informed, my s2k is a 2007.
So they are now downplaying the fact that I 'over-revved' and the GM is actually cooperating in the investigation which led to the seizure of my engine. They didn't offer to take the motor apart to find what's wrong, he claimed it was 800$ and he wasn't going to pay to see it apart. I also snuck up today to get some stuff out of the car and heard a tech talking to the GM about the car - his exact words were during redline or harsh driving, the car can burn oil which can lead to a small amount of oil in the car which led to the seizure of the motor through oil starvation. This claim steers me out of the clear for over-revving the motor.
Now I got one question; they told me they would lift the motor up and take off the oil pan to look up at the cylinders. Now I'm not too good with cars so I wouldn't know what to look for but if there is damage there can it be attested to anything I could've done to the car? Is the lack of oil going to be able to be the single primary cause to the seizure of the motor and damage to the cylinders, if any?
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Ok, it gets even more hilarious - They said they had a 20 year veteran honda tech try to pull ECU codes from the car. He "CLAIMED" it was a 50/50 chance to pull these codes. The GM claimed that these codes could NOT be pulled. I sat there and got so frustrated I told him that there's no 50/50 chance to pull these codes, they're there, unless you dumped the ecu. This is going to turn into a circus if they do not fix my car.
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Lastly, can anyone here in socal refer me to a tech who knows about s2k's? I'd like to have them there when they pull the oil pan to check the cylinders for damages. If they see damage there and then pull the 'over-rev' card on me again I'm going to need an expert to tell there to justify it with the oil problem if it has anything to do with it.
Thanks in advance
PS I thought 06+ S2k's had the ecu readout right before it dies no matter what? Please keep me informed, my s2k is a 2007.
Also, they performed a 110 point inspection - I got the paperwork today. I skimmed through it and it is just a copy. Can the dealership just mock one up? The GM went away from almost 45 minutes to find these papers. It looks like the car was traded in September of 2009 and all maintenance done was done on September 2009 when the car was traded in. It is 7+ months later; if the car had not been driven enough will this cause the oil to go bad in the motor? Let me know guys - much appreciated.
Not a 150 pt inspection, but I was guaranteed by this (NOT THE 110 THEY ARE NOW CLAIMING) by 2 managers, finance manager, and the car salesman - even others who were watching the sale happen as I inspected the car.
I checked the papers of the inspection work - they did an oil change, brakes/suspension / test drive / checked for rattles / replaced battery / smog and THAT's it.. They did not touch the coolant..
The oil used was 10w30.
The tech who printed this out also added with his own penmanship that today 3/11/2010, they drained the oil, found no metal chips, no foam, no water, and "oil looked good."
Also there is NO indication on this 110 inspection where they inspected the motor - the only attention the motor got was an oil change which I repeat was NOT printed with the computer font like the other things done were.. The oil, replace battery, and repair rear noise were written in by HAND while the verify vin with DMV/used car smog/used car safety were computer printed.
Like I said these are COPIES not actual documents - I'm leaning towards the idea that this was quickly scribbled in.
I checked the papers of the inspection work - they did an oil change, brakes/suspension / test drive / checked for rattles / replaced battery / smog and THAT's it.. They did not touch the coolant..
The oil used was 10w30.
The tech who printed this out also added with his own penmanship that today 3/11/2010, they drained the oil, found no metal chips, no foam, no water, and "oil looked good."
Also there is NO indication on this 110 inspection where they inspected the motor - the only attention the motor got was an oil change which I repeat was NOT printed with the computer font like the other things done were.. The oil, replace battery, and repair rear noise were written in by HAND while the verify vin with DMV/used car smog/used car safety were computer printed.
Like I said these are COPIES not actual documents - I'm leaning towards the idea that this was quickly scribbled in.
ouch, that really sucks, OP. i'm sorry to hear that you are getting completely hosed, and i hope it turns out okay.
this is why i refused to buy a used S2000. yes, the majority of them are in good condition, but there are just too many variables that can lead to disaster down the road after you buy the car (like in this case). an over-rev can take months to rear its ugly head, and since most people drive the hell out of these cars, i felt better buying new for 27k and getting a better interest rate to boot.
i hope this gets straightened out for you. if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for the MY07? $20k?
this is why i refused to buy a used S2000. yes, the majority of them are in good condition, but there are just too many variables that can lead to disaster down the road after you buy the car (like in this case). an over-rev can take months to rear its ugly head, and since most people drive the hell out of these cars, i felt better buying new for 27k and getting a better interest rate to boot.
i hope this gets straightened out for you. if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for the MY07? $20k?





