2007 Honda s2000 blown engine STOCK
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Originally Posted by jyeung528,Mar 17 2010, 11:38 AM
hey. keep the "stupid shit" to yourself.
tell me how you know for a fact that he actually didn't over-rev the engine?
yea. exactly. thanks.
you want to start a war of words, take it to PM. a$$h0le.
tell me how you know for a fact that he actually didn't over-rev the engine?
yea. exactly. thanks.
you want to start a war of words, take it to PM. a$$h0le.
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Originally Posted by USMCkang,Mar 16 2010, 09:51 AM
There is no warranty on the car.
The dealership is not being cooperative as far as compensating me goes. They are still convinced that the motor was over-revved when clearly the damages on the car are not even close to the damages of an "over-revved" s2000.
My car is seized fellas, the crank will not move at all. I am pretty certain it is an oil problem. The only technical advice I'm asking from you fellas is to help me differentiate/justify the two.
Here's what I have concluded from my research.
If a motor is 'over-revved' then the car will still 'crank' and will even start or struggle to start. There will be a loud knocking or something from a rod being thrown around in the engine while driving.
If a motor is starved of oil/oil is low, the car will seize as in my case, and not even start. The starter will light up but the motor will not 'turn.'
I just need this justified; also today when we removed the oil pan, the #4 cylinder had metal shavings protruding from it and metal shavings in the pan. There was also oil coming out of it which I took a cup of to get analyzed.
The dealership is not being cooperative as far as compensating me goes. They are still convinced that the motor was over-revved when clearly the damages on the car are not even close to the damages of an "over-revved" s2000.
My car is seized fellas, the crank will not move at all. I am pretty certain it is an oil problem. The only technical advice I'm asking from you fellas is to help me differentiate/justify the two.
Here's what I have concluded from my research.
If a motor is 'over-revved' then the car will still 'crank' and will even start or struggle to start. There will be a loud knocking or something from a rod being thrown around in the engine while driving.
If a motor is starved of oil/oil is low, the car will seize as in my case, and not even start. The starter will light up but the motor will not 'turn.'
I just need this justified; also today when we removed the oil pan, the #4 cylinder had metal shavings protruding from it and metal shavings in the pan. There was also oil coming out of it which I took a cup of to get analyzed.
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In the picture where you point at the "shavings" with a screwdriver I think you're pointing at parts of the thrust bearing.
IMO a severely damaged thrust bearing could seize an engine.
There was a post not that long ago about an engine stalling as soon as the clutch pedal was pressed.
That turned out to be crank walk, aka failed thrust bearing.
When you take corners in neutral, do you keep the clutch in during the turn or do you actually shift into neutral and release the clutch?
Just a wild guess: if you keep the clutch in during a turn in an engine extremely low on oil, you could - in theory - have an oil starvation issue manifesting itself mainly at the thrust bearing.
The oil level has to be low enough to - during the turn - be all swept to the side and away from the oil pickup point.
(that's the slot with the wire mesh at the bottom of the oil pump)
IMO a severely damaged thrust bearing could seize an engine.
There was a post not that long ago about an engine stalling as soon as the clutch pedal was pressed.
That turned out to be crank walk, aka failed thrust bearing.
When you take corners in neutral, do you keep the clutch in during the turn or do you actually shift into neutral and release the clutch?
Just a wild guess: if you keep the clutch in during a turn in an engine extremely low on oil, you could - in theory - have an oil starvation issue manifesting itself mainly at the thrust bearing.
The oil level has to be low enough to - during the turn - be all swept to the side and away from the oil pickup point.
(that's the slot with the wire mesh at the bottom of the oil pump)
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Originally Posted by HonCBRf2,Mar 17 2010, 02:55 AM
If all you have to say is ignorant things, then how about not posting...who are you to judge how someone drives?
You can see a lot of people trying to help the OP, especially castamir and a few others. I noticed that castamir went the extra mile for the OP on this one by asking his friend at BMW and posting plenty of insight. Now that is service!
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So you say the crank is seized? Man if thats the case, did they inspect the valves and retainers? Its bullshit if they just throw some crap line about reading the ECU, I honestly didnt even know that we had data logging, and if thats the case tell them you wait the read out and that info in writing.
Seized crank and an over rev, 2 totally different possibilities IMO.
Seized crank and an over rev, 2 totally different possibilities IMO.
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any update? just wondering since you bought it "as-is". just wondering if the dealr has done anything helpful since they really dont have to?
also i live in VA and we have a lemon law on NEW cars but not on used cars. im just wondering what state you are in and if you are aware of your lemon law. and the process that you have to do in order to have it deemed as a lemon. its not as simple as hey my car is broke. i bought it two days ago. it MUST be a lemon.
also i live in VA and we have a lemon law on NEW cars but not on used cars. im just wondering what state you are in and if you are aware of your lemon law. and the process that you have to do in order to have it deemed as a lemon. its not as simple as hey my car is broke. i bought it two days ago. it MUST be a lemon.
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Originally Posted by HonCBRf2,Mar 17 2010, 02:55 AM
If all you have to say is ignorant things, then how about not posting...who are you to judge how someone drives?
you're so sure he didn't cause the damage because he "said so"
that's ignorance.
i'm considering the situation from both angles.
just cuz you post on s2ki doesn't mean you're not at fault.
OP has already demostrated very little knowledge about the car...and perhaps even limited knowledge on driving a manual transmission as well. these are signs that there may exist driver incompetence...and driver incompetence leads to damaged engines.
how is that ignorant? ignorant is blindly blaming the dealer when we have NO evidence that the dealer has done anything wrong...yet.
besides...all suggestions to the OP have been largely ignored...so what else do you want to post?
i'm proud to be the first one to suggest that perhaps the OP is at fault...so i'll post this shit all day long.
if you don't like it. don't read it.
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Originally Posted by DWF,Mar 17 2010, 06:31 AM
I have to agree. I'm not one to chime in on situations like this very often, but as I'm reading this thread, I specifically notice jyeung is adding no value to this discussion. All he is doing is mocking the OP and repeatedly implying "You can't drive. Why the hell are you taking a turn in neutral?". Enough with the irrelevance already. I had to roll my eyes everytime I saw his post.
You can see a lot of people trying to help the OP, especially castamir and a few others. I noticed that castamir went the extra mile for the OP on this one by asking his friend at BMW and posting plenty of insight. Now that is service!
You can see a lot of people trying to help the OP, especially castamir and a few others. I noticed that castamir went the extra mile for the OP on this one by asking his friend at BMW and posting plenty of insight. Now that is service!
i'm stating my opinions as the thread unfolds.
it's not popular with you guys, but that's not going to hold me back from stating my opinions.
i think it's pretty interesting that spitfires provides an explanation of how the OP can be at fault for this as well.
someone want to inform the dealer of this explanation?
didn't think so.
is everything that is posted on s2ki.com the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
get real here. if the dealership had a thread on here, this story would get a helluva lot more interesting, don't you think?