As far as that race is concerned put 10,000 miles or so on that bad boy then fill it up with pump gas and we'll go out for a walk.

Won't be long with the miles I've been putting on it and pump gas isn't a problem. My mechanic figured out a way to fool the air temp sensor to pull out about 8 degs. of timing which is all I need. I don't mind the skepticism, I'm used to it actually. My 93 Prelude Si automatic (completely stock) with a 100 shot direct port nitrous kicked the crap out of local cars for a couple years. The whole time they kept telling me how my transmission wouldn't hold up or my motor wouldn't hold it. I recently sold that car with about 130,000 miles on it and it ran like a champ. You guys must have a shortage of good performance mechanics out there in Washington.

 

Apparently so , shortage of optimistic dynos too

 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! <shot>

Derryk,

As far as not believing you, yep your right! I don't believe it until I see it on paper. Same with quarter mile times and the like. I'm from Missouri (SHOW ME)! If not then don't claim it until you can back it! Until then it's just more BS.

Boosted R-1, who did the Turbo for it? I have a Turbo CBX on gas, a Turbo Z-1R and a little toy NA buy the way, that likes to turn 8's all day long. The point of the bike was to tell you Derryk, that no matter how fast you think you are, there is always someone and something that's always faster. Come to think of it at 46 I've probally got a better reaction time than you also. Care to make a wager?

 

Mine dynoed 210.3 completely stock on a day which had dynos of 6-7 other stock cars which were all within expected range...

The question is, how much would that 212whp car had dynod stock, maybe it was already at 207+...

 

Sev power...



Anyways, does the HP number really matter at all if Derryck busts into the 11s? He's shown his dyno sheet with the turbo and a baseline with exhaust and some other basic stuff. The baseline is optimistic, but it's not out of this world. Chris may have had extremely favorable conditions that day he dyno'ed. There's no need to come out and call Derryck a liar. What does he gain by lying? His dyno sheet has shown 100+HP gains over stock. He's run low 12s in the 1/4 mile. A timeslip would be nice, but the fact is that the turbo has allowed the S2000 to go low 12s and maybe high 11s. Does it matter if 12.1s is done with 300rwhp or 320rwhp?

Just my thoughts.

Temin

 

Temin,
Thanks, glad someone here can make sense of things.

Sev,
You must be lying, they can't do it so you can't either.

JRM,

My R1 turbo is a kit made by some Europen manufacturer, I think it's Schwitzer. I understand that there's always someone faster, we weren't really talking about my car here. Our discussion here has been over the fact that you guys don't believe that an S2000 (ChrisD's in this case) could dyno at 212 RWHP with only a throttle body and intake or that it's our 'optimistic' dyno. Well... I don't really care, my car hauls ass and I love it, ChrisD's will soon be the same way and will very probably beat my dyno considering his baseline. Does it mean he'll be faster, not nec.. Out of the all of the stock or close to it S2000 dynos that I've seen, most fall off after about 8000-8300 RPM's. Mine, on the other hand, continues to climb until pretty much redline.
Sounds like you like your toys as much as I do an I'm sorry that you're stuck in Misery... uh Missouri. I'm also sorry that you went through sissy boot camp in the Air Force, did they teach you guys how to make muffins? Just kidding. Whether or not you believe me, I could really care less, it's not even my car we're talking about here but if you're ever in Florida look me up. I'm sure we have alot in common despite you being an old man.

 

derryck,
when are you planning to be at the Gainesville speedway? I live here in Gainesburger and would love to check out you're ride!

 

Rxs2k,
Weather permitting, I'll be there this evening, probably around 7 or 7:30 I'll be there.

 

No, they taught us pinpoint, strategic and related bombing techniques. Air to air combat, and so much more, to mention just a few. It was called air war college! Actually figuratively speaking, proof is worth a thousand words. Your S 2000 is not in question here, your friends is as the original topic stated. What is questionable is the calibration of the dyno used. You'll have to admit that these are the highest stock figures we've seen. So if my math is correct, it would also equate to the auto having somewhere around 260-265 crank rated Hp. A throttlebody and an intake are not going to give this kind of horsepower gain. So it makes me skeptical of two things! Both of those being, a very optimistic dynometer or some serious tuning, say in the realm of a spoon long block. The prior being the more likely.

All things being relative these are outstanding figure and would surely be an exception. But such claims without documented proof are hard to swallow. So as the old saying goes, "I'm from Missouri Show Me!"

Anyway all this is a mute point until I can see some comparative figures. Say another dynometer used!

And for being an old guy, it's like a good wine it just gets better more seasoned with age.

Hey, you got me curious about the Turbo from Schwitzer. Was this a custom built unit for the R-1? Or did you get it through Mellet or AET in the UK. I know Schwitzer, builds a lot of Turbos for diesel applications and automotive applications, didn't know they did that small of an application for a bike? ATP did all the Turbos for my bikes and were specifically designed for motorcycle applications. Interesting!

 

And for being an old guy, it's like a good wine it just gets better more seasoned with age.


Yeah right... that's what the old men like to think they like to forget the fact that at some point that wine turns to vinegar. So what do you have to say about Sev dynoing at 210 bone stock? Did he have a favorable dyno as well... could an intake and throttle body not add a couple of horsepower? I admit that those are high stock figures, not high enough that I would discount them however. We have all seen dyno numbers in the mid to upper 190 hp range and in the 200-205 hp range. That's quite a variance wouldn't you think. Keep in mind that ChrisD's car has somewhere in the neighborhood of 30,000 miles on it. My car dynoed at 206 with less than 5K miles on it and I think we all know that the car gets faster with mileage, at least to a certain point. Maybe his car is just broken in more than some of the rest.