80 whp more without FI?
Originally Posted by plokivos,Mar 8 2007, 07:52 AM
problem with that engine is, you're not only looking at $10,000 for the engine, you're looking at install/swap, and most important aspect of it all, tuning your ECU (which is going to require a EMS).
that's $$$ compare to sticking a Full Race Stage 3 GT Turbo kit in for a lot less (which I'm looking at...)
I figure the only way you'll get 80whp cheap is reducing the weight of the car, but I like my leather interior and compartment cubes and radio and a/c.
I'm still amazed at the fact that with H/I/E there is minimal gain of whp.
very expensive doing H/I/E route compare to the whp gain on s2k.
that's $$$ compare to sticking a Full Race Stage 3 GT Turbo kit in for a lot less (which I'm looking at...)
I figure the only way you'll get 80whp cheap is reducing the weight of the car, but I like my leather interior and compartment cubes and radio and a/c.
I'm still amazed at the fact that with H/I/E there is minimal gain of whp.
very expensive doing H/I/E route compare to the whp gain on s2k.
Truth is, if you went with a 70mm header-back exhaust (T1R/J's...), a J's header, and K&N FIPK intake you'd gain about 20whp. Then, add a VAFC tune on top of that and you could probably break the 230whp mark. IMO that is considerable for such minor mods. And at this point, buying name brand stuff and paying for tuning, you have probably spent ~3500
So thats about $115 per 1hp...expensive yes, but its a pretty large gain in hp for fairly minimal mods. Imagine the cost of a stroker motor per hp...assuming you upgrade a lot of other stuff along the way, thats closer to $250-275/hp after all is said and done. F/I is more in the $60-80 range
I guess that is a tricky situation. If you gain 80whp, that means more displacement, which means a lot more money.
if s2000 had a 6 cylinder engine, it wouldn't technically classified as mid-engine car, and it'll take the 50/50 into whack.
I've done the turbo thing and I honestly like the N/A better for some odd reason, don't ask me why...
just something about making N/A go super fast feels good and it's a rare thing these days, since everyone is bolting a turbo in their mini-vans and prius.
if s2000 had a 6 cylinder engine, it wouldn't technically classified as mid-engine car, and it'll take the 50/50 into whack.
I've done the turbo thing and I honestly like the N/A better for some odd reason, don't ask me why...
just something about making N/A go super fast feels good and it's a rare thing these days, since everyone is bolting a turbo in their mini-vans and prius.
Originally Posted by plokivos,Mar 8 2007, 02:00 PM
I guess that is a tricky situation. If you gain 80whp, that means more displacement, which means a lot more money.
if s2000 had a 6 cylinder engine, it wouldn't technically classified as mid-engine car, and it'll take the 50/50 into whack.
I've done the turbo thing and I honestly like the N/A better for some odd reason, don't ask me why...
just something about making N/A go super fast feels good and it's a rare thing these days, since everyone is bolting a turbo in their mini-vans and prius.
if s2000 had a 6 cylinder engine, it wouldn't technically classified as mid-engine car, and it'll take the 50/50 into whack.
I've done the turbo thing and I honestly like the N/A better for some odd reason, don't ask me why...
just something about making N/A go super fast feels good and it's a rare thing these days, since everyone is bolting a turbo in their mini-vans and prius.
If you want 80 more horsepower, just add a centrifugal supercharger. Definitely the cheapest route to get those kind of gains.
Originally Posted by plokivos,Mar 8 2007, 07:52 AM
I figure the only way you'll get 80whp cheap is reducing the weight of the car, but I like my leather interior and compartment cubes and radio and a/c.
If you want to get 80 more rwhp cheap, then sell the S2000 and buy a Camaro or a Mustang.
i knew someone was going to say that. yeh, that was the implication. 0hp gain, but better weight to hp gain... which equals to like having more whp... sigh...
why would I buy a camaro or a mustang? is that what you drove before? because I got 80whp with intake, tbe, mbc and tune with an Evo.
why would I buy a camaro or a mustang? is that what you drove before? because I got 80whp with intake, tbe, mbc and tune with an Evo.
Originally Posted by plokivos,Mar 8 2007, 11:00 AM
I guess that is a tricky situation. If you gain 80whp, that means more displacement, which means a lot more money.
if s2000 had a 6 cylinder engine, it wouldn't technically classified as mid-engine car, and it'll take the 50/50 into whack.
I've done the turbo thing and I honestly like the N/A better for some odd reason, don't ask me why...
just something about making N/A go super fast feels good and it's a rare thing these days, since everyone is bolting a turbo in their mini-vans and prius.
if s2000 had a 6 cylinder engine, it wouldn't technically classified as mid-engine car, and it'll take the 50/50 into whack.
I've done the turbo thing and I honestly like the N/A better for some odd reason, don't ask me why...
just something about making N/A go super fast feels good and it's a rare thing these days, since everyone is bolting a turbo in their mini-vans and prius.
But now that I will be getting the 2.5, I'm happy, its what I've always wanted the car to be. And for myself a 12.9 in the 1/4 will be fast enough. I've got 4.57's too.
how does that work out with 4.57 gear and sc?
I think 4.1 will work better with the FI setup... but i haven't really come to a conclusion on that or researched it too much on it.
I think 4.1 will work better with the FI setup... but i haven't really come to a conclusion on that or researched it too much on it.
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