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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Supra-holic,Oct 3 2010, 03:52 PM
Looks like the CDV is a band aid.

Honda should have address the root cause, the weak diff.
Well, the root issue was bad drivers. Not sure there is any fix for that.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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i still have mine doesnt bother me.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Are there any videos available that can show the difference between shifting at redline properly with the CDV and how people are doing it improperly and blaming it on the CDV? I'm still confused what people are doing wrong and blaming on the CDV.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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I'd still like to know whether the CDV dampens fluid flow in both directions or just one. Without having to remove mine and find out for myself of course.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Si Isnt Enough,Oct 3 2010, 04:10 PM
Are there any videos available that can show the difference between shifting at redline properly with the CDV and how people are doing it improperly and blaming it on the CDV? I'm still confused what people are doing wrong and blaming on the CDV.
its not rocket science. If you shift fast and clutch fast @ high rpm the CDV will cause a slip. If you do it slow then it will not.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark355,Oct 2 2010, 06:14 PM
Still have mine and no plans to remove it. Then again, I don't shift like I'm on Best Motoring. That's horrible for your whole drivetrain.
FYI for those that haven't removed it. If you can't notice it/it doesn't bother you, lucky you. Those of us that removed it merely are more sensitive to it, and it bothers us. Ya ya, people will say "it's not that bad," and you're right, it's not that bad, but why should we have to live with it if it bothers us? The simple answer is we shouldn't.

I've driven many hondas, and considering the '92 prelude the s2k replaced had a less "mushy"/more precise engagement than the s2k is simply pathetic. I think many modern cars have taken steps back in terms of driveability, but there's only so much I can do. If you can't notice it, great. I have yet to launch the car/dump the clutch to launch it, and don't speedshift/powershift, and the removal of the CDV was a welcome improvement.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Si Isnt Enough,Oct 3 2010, 01:10 PM
Are there any videos available that can show the difference between shifting at redline properly with the CDV and how people are doing it improperly and blaming it on the CDV? I'm still confused what people are doing wrong and blaming on the CDV.
skip to :36 on this video

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPgc_sJTqEU [/media]

the 'slipping' is noticable on his 1-2 and VERY obvious on his 2-3

on his 3-4 looks like he shift slowly to avoid the problem

and remember. this isnt an issue with the CDV.. this is an issue with the overweight flywheel
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:27 AM
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ok then, looks like I'll keep the CDV until I get a new clutch and flywheel
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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[QUOTE=Saki GT,Oct 1 2010, 05:39 AM]Clutch Delay Valve.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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^^ Saki is good at explaining things to the average S owner. That is what made me decide to put in an ap1 flywheel and replace my ap2 Slave cylinder with an ap1 slave cylinder(no CDV). Several months ago.

Difference in the Slave cylinder swap is, like stated above, a more direct feel. And the difference from swapping to an ap1 flywheel is the car is more peppier in the midrange and the revs drop a bit quicker. How much quicker...I tested this out with my friends MY07 awhile back(which he only has the CDV removed in his).

I revved both of our cars to 6k and let the revs drop(multiple times). Mine reached the 1k rpms idle while his was passing the 2k rpms still dropping towards idle. So about 1k rpms quicker rev drops...More or less.

Oem ap1 flywheel... 13.5 lbs
Oem ap2 flywheel... 22 lbs

Makes a small noticeable difference
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