Yep.. sounds like a lot of overworried helicopter parents in here.. Or in the words of George Carlin.. baby worshippers. lolI remember when seatbelts didn't even have shoulder belts. Growing up at 6 or 7 going for a ride in my dad's pontiac. I was just fine, but you'd have retards screaming how dangerous it is now. Amazing how sissified everyone is these days, scared to drive their perfectly good car because jr. is gonna die. Pretty pathetic actually.Back on topic. Sounds like you have your answer. Goto the ministry and see what's needed to install an airbag switch.
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Theres nothing pathetic about trying to protect your child. Safety in cars has developed with technology and our understanding of the effects a crash can have on a human being. Are you implying that lives haven't been saved by the implementation of seat belts and air bags? Same goes for kids traveling in cars. I came home from the hospital in my mothers arms. That's illegal now for a reason. We know it's dangerous and we have opportunities to make it as safe as we possibly can. You would be foolish to ignore the information at hand and take unnecessary risks. Of course, that leads us to natural selection. So feel free to cleanse the gene pool.

 

Safety is important, but at what point do you stop and say enough is enough? Why don't you just daily drive a tank then if you want to be so careful?

I'm all for natural selection.. but I'm also against a sanitized/pussified society. Over regulation doesn't benefit everyone as a whole and just turns people soft as they don't actually have to use their brain anymore (and we end up with a retarded/dumb gene pool). To each his own. I just find it pathetic that people are judging this guy because he wants to put his kid in his s2k. I see so many shitty parents who do things "right," but end up raising a mindless/dumb kid. Lots of hypocrites out there..

 

"I just find it pathetic that people are judging this guy because he wants to put his kid in his s2k."

Uh... he asked.

 

Nothing is wrong with reasonable measures to increase safety. The problem is when people force unreasonable ones. This problem is compounded in that determination of what is reasonable and unreasonable can be subjective to some.

 

Wrong. He asked how to do it, not whether or not he should. Big difference.

 

"Has anyone here found a safe and legal way to put a baby seat for a 16 month+ baby in an AP1?"

Not trying to argue with you man. But he asked. And according to the manual the answer is clearly NO. So wheres the big difference? Nobody is accusing him of being a bad person. It's a simple question with a simple answer. The "opinions" are the ones who claim that there is or is not a safe and legal way to do it. It's his choice, not yours or mine. As a father, it's my opinion there really isn't IF you give any credit to those who built the car. But what do they know right? Hell, strap the kit to the hood for all I care. Nothing a little duct tape cant fix!

 

Can you point me to this law? I have searched www.dmv.ny.gov, www.safeny.ny.gov, and www.troopers.ny.gov and cannot find it.

The wording on this state website suggests that it is legal.
http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Traffic_S...eats/Mistakes/

 

I think some of you guys are forgetting a few differences between now and 30 ~ 40 years ago.

40 years ago you didn't have 5000+ lbs SUVs soccer moms driving around smashing into Aluminum body panel cars. So while yes, like you I did come home in mom's arms when I was born and rode around the back of cars without seatbelts. The dangers back then are the reason why safety devices like airbags/seatbelts were invented.

 

Compared to 2008, fatalities per mile were 121% higher in 1982 and 246% in 1972. So, yes, it is safer now, but it would also be safer if we reduced the maximum speed limit to 40 mph. He should follow the laws in his country regarding safety. He doesn't need people judging him on what they subjectively feel is right or wrong.

 

My post was directed at those judging him because he's considering putting his kid in the seat. A simple "yes or no" answer would suffice without all the stupid "but why would you even want to put your baby in your s2k?" nonsense. Also, if the manual actually states X age/weight is acceptable for the car, then so be it. That's a valid reason. However, just because they say it's not suitable (in its stock form), hardly means it's unsuitable in non-stock form. If someone is willing to take the precautions necessary to make it "safe," so be it. Pointing at the manual and saying "no child is suitable under age/weight X" is hardly the final answer on the subject, because again, we're talking about the car in stock form..