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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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I can get alignment specs and pictures this evening. Expect them around 8ish
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Your wear is probably due to toe. If your tires are worn only on the inner 2'' of tread out of a 245mm wide (9.64'' wide) tire, only 2deg or so of camber is not going to be the cause.

The wear seen by camber is actually pretty a pretty gradual gradient unless you have like 10 degrees of camber or something insane.

You're probably experiencing toe wear. I would definately have the car aligned again after putting on some new tires. You can't properly align a car on tires worn the way you're describing. If you allready got new tires and then got the alignment done; disregard.

Fix the toe and you should be fine. When I was shopping for cars, I saw a AP1 with 32k miles and the original tires. The fronts were fine, but the rears were bald...but still...32k miles....on a AP1....with S02s. AP1s have more rear toe in from the factory than AP2s and usually will wear the same rear tire out faster. There was a very slight gradient of wear from the inner edge to the outer edge on the car I was test driving. THAT could be described as "camber wear" over highway driving.

Since your FRONTS wore out, I'd definately have to say you have a toe issue. I can almost positively tell you that your camber spec was fine. I run -2.3 degrees up front and -3 degrees out back. Completely even wear. I have my fronts toed to 0 degrees and the rears at ~5mm total. I do track my car...which I guess would contribute to evenly wearing my tires' outside edges...but honestly, even with the regular driving in between track days, I get no uneven wear.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek88,Aug 22 2009, 02:08 PM
I can get alignment specs and pictures this evening. Expect them around 8ish
it is 8pm. where are the pics???
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Ok.. I have the specs and pics. Frankly, I'm kinda embarrassed.

The only tire I saw when we took pictures was the driver's front. It turns out that it is the most worn tire... So the "excessive" wear isn't really that bad. However, the wear is a bit worse than it shows in the pics

Camber
Front Left

Actual -0.6
Before -0.7
Specified Range -0.7 to -0.3

Front Right

Actual -0.6
Before -0.4
Range -0.7 to -0.3

Rear Left

Actual -1.6
Before -1.7
Range -1.7 to -1.3

Rear Right

Actual -1.8
Before -1.7
Range -1.7 to -1.3



Toe

Front Left

Actual 0.00in
Before -0.10in
Range -0.04 to 0.04

Front Right

Actual -0.01
Before -0.08
Range -0.04 to -0.04

Rear Left

Actual 0.08
Before 0.09
Range 0.03 to 0.11

Rear Right

Actual 0.07
Before 0.03
Range 0.03 to 0.11



So I guess it may be toe wear...



Front Left:



Front Right



Rear Right



Rear Left





You guys seem to be right... which I suspected. Thanks for the insight
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek88,Aug 22 2009, 09:02 PM
Camber
Front Left

Actual -0.6
Before -0.7
Toe

Front Left

Actual 0.00in
Before -0.10in
Range -0.04 to 0.04

Front Right

Actual -0.01
Before -0.08
Range -0.04 to -0.04
camber is nothing. your wheels are almost vertical up front. toe was almost 1/4" out, which is a tire killer. you should be good to go now.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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your toe is for sheeet
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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You can't really properly align a car with tires like that. Oh well. Chew through them and get another alignment after buying new ones.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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My front tires never sore that unevenly. My rears looked more like your bad front tire.
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