Hmmm...somehow I'd still think there would be an opportunity [call it harrassment if nothing else] for a cop to approach such an individual on a wreckless driving citation. But again, I ain't a lawyer, nor a cop, nor have I experienced this myself. But its the fodder that churns in my head and keeps me from driving like a nut in a parking lot regardless.

- Dave

 

Dude, you can spin out any car. I used to have a Probe GT. Long before my autocross days - on the street, it was hard to get the rear to come around outside of really aggressive leftfoot breaking mid turn - and believe me I tried. Since then I've been an avid autocrosser and have seen Probes and other "understeers like a pig - won't ever spin" cars really get turned around. I'm sure if you took the 04 hard into a transition you didn't expect, and got out of the throttle sharply while transitioning the steering - you'd have a nice suprise. Haven't seen a car yet immune to that. Also, a fast turn that you to late realise is a decreasing radius taken while you're already close to the limit - gotta lift a little if you're that close to the edge or it'll understeer off the outside. Guess what? At the limit, slight lift, and someone turing the wheel to get more lock - whoopsie dasiy.

Personally I don't think that just going to a parking lot and drifting per se really teaches you near as much as you need to know. In those environments you tend not to get into the momentum effects that really end up causing "spinouts" and the ensuing wrecks. Read most "I spun out" posts, it usually goes something like "the rear came around, i caught it, then it went the other way, I caught it again, then I couldn't catch it and it fishtailed". Truth was the driver never had it. Best learning is not to go autocross (you've gotta do a ton of events to start building the skills, but at least you learn to recognize the areas where you should be concerned). No, look for an autcross novice school or even an EVO autocross school (typically more expensive) in your area. I guarantee you'll come out of one of those with way more appreciation of the limit (and the fact that you don't know it as well as you thought you did). I'd personally love to see more S2000s at the local autocross - but I'm not going to sell it as an immediate skill improvement option.

JMHO of course.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by w1ngman
Hmmm...somehow I'd still think there would be an opportunity [call it harrassment if nothing else] for a cop to approach such an individual on a wreckless driving citation.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonBoy
A cop doesn't have the right to do anything to you in a private parking lot.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rworne