Is the CR worth it?
Originally Posted by the-moss,Mar 17 2009, 10:23 AM
While it's not an argument for 'value', I can see where the MSRP of the CR comes from. It is basically a stripped down S2K + factory hardtop, and it is cheaper than a base S2K + factory hardtop.
And, if you have to ask if the CR is worth it, then NO, the CR is not the right vehicle for you. JMO
Originally Posted by RFCR,Mar 17 2009, 12:39 PM
You're basically wrong. If you were to strip down a regular s2K you won't get anything near a CR. If you modify a regular s2K you still won't get CR experience. The CR is a uniquely tuned S2000 with specific engineering built in, down to its tire choice, shocks, chassis, steering rack, etc, the list goes on.
And, if you have to ask if the CR is worth it, then NO, the CR is not the right vehicle for you. JMO
And, if you have to ask if the CR is worth it, then NO, the CR is not the right vehicle for you. JMO
I was simply stating that it does have a lower MSRP once you factor in the MSRP of the hardtop. Not saying if it's worth it or not. Just that's why the MSRP is higher than the MSRP of a base car with no hardtop.
You will notice that I own a CR.
Quite frankly, I don't think I would pay MSRP for a CR. Hell, I wouldn't pay MSRP for an S. But I payed way below MSRP for my CR.
I made the decision to trade in my AP1 for a CR instead of modding. How did I come to this decision?
Well, first, I bought my AP1 used the day I could afford an S2000. With a little bit more money in pocket, I always wanted a new car - but the AP2's never appealed to me. Too soft, too many compromises. The CR was my chance to get the rawness of AP1's (actually more raw) while still being able to get a new S.
Additionally, I autocross a lot. And I want to stay in A-Stock. So no coilovers, or intakes, or race seats, or lightening for me. Plus, I'm of the opinion that a car like the S2000 is engineered so well that it only needs to be tweaked, not modded. The CR, to me, gave it that little bit extra I thought needed tweaking - the stiffer suspension, lighter, more downforce, and proper seats.
As far as the no softtop, and for me, no radio/ac there are a few things to consider. My S is my second car, and even my AP1 I only drove when I could drive it top down. In my area, if it's going to rain that day, it's going to rain, and if it's not, then it's not. It's not like Florida or something where there is a tropical storm for 10 minutes every day.
As far as getting an Evo or something as a hardcore track car. I would disagree. The S2000, IMO, is a more fun car to drive on the track. Also, depending on what race series you compete in, the S2000 may be more competitive (based on classing).
I made the decision to trade in my AP1 for a CR instead of modding. How did I come to this decision?
Well, first, I bought my AP1 used the day I could afford an S2000. With a little bit more money in pocket, I always wanted a new car - but the AP2's never appealed to me. Too soft, too many compromises. The CR was my chance to get the rawness of AP1's (actually more raw) while still being able to get a new S.
Additionally, I autocross a lot. And I want to stay in A-Stock. So no coilovers, or intakes, or race seats, or lightening for me. Plus, I'm of the opinion that a car like the S2000 is engineered so well that it only needs to be tweaked, not modded. The CR, to me, gave it that little bit extra I thought needed tweaking - the stiffer suspension, lighter, more downforce, and proper seats.
As far as the no softtop, and for me, no radio/ac there are a few things to consider. My S is my second car, and even my AP1 I only drove when I could drive it top down. In my area, if it's going to rain that day, it's going to rain, and if it's not, then it's not. It's not like Florida or something where there is a tropical storm for 10 minutes every day.
As far as getting an Evo or something as a hardcore track car. I would disagree. The S2000, IMO, is a more fun car to drive on the track. Also, depending on what race series you compete in, the S2000 may be more competitive (based on classing).
Originally Posted by the-moss,Mar 17 2009, 11:27 AM
What I said was in response to the post stating that the CR should have an MSRP less than the base because it has less equipment. This is what I meant by stripped down.
I was simply stating that it does have a lower MSRP once you factor in the MSRP of the hardtop. Not saying if it's worth it or not. Just that's why the MSRP is higher than the MSRP of a base car with no hardtop.
You will notice that I own a CR.
I was simply stating that it does have a lower MSRP once you factor in the MSRP of the hardtop. Not saying if it's worth it or not. Just that's why the MSRP is higher than the MSRP of a base car with no hardtop.
You will notice that I own a CR.
Ever since I sold my 1998 Type R I've been searching for that same unique rawness off the showroom floor. Since then I've owned a plethora of cars, inlcuding an '04 and '06 STI, and an '06 Evo IX RS. I very recently acquired an '08 CR.
I can honestly rate them accordingly:
Fun factor: CR>'98TypeR>'04STi>'06EvoIXRS>'06STI
Coolness factor:
CR='98TypeR>'06EvoIXRS>'04STi>'06STI
Daily Driver:
'06STI>'04STi>'06EvoIXRS>'98TypeR>CR
...so based on the above...
Value(ROI):
'98TypeR=CR>'04STi>'06EvoIXRS>'06STI
I can honestly rate them accordingly:
Fun factor: CR>'98TypeR>'04STi>'06EvoIXRS>'06STI
Coolness factor:
CR='98TypeR>'06EvoIXRS>'04STi>'06STI
Daily Driver:
'06STI>'04STi>'06EvoIXRS>'98TypeR>CR
...so based on the above...
Value(ROI):
'98TypeR=CR>'04STi>'06EvoIXRS>'06STI
Given the "Club Racer" tag, I'm a bit puzzled why the CR does not have any improvement in roll protection over the base S2000. There are more than a few trackday/DE organizers around the country that won't accept the stock roll hoops. While I like the philosophy behind the CR, I don't think the car is track ready right off the showroom floor. Aside from the roll protection issue, the brake pads and fluid are no different from the standard S (thus prone to fade with anything approaching hard track braking).
Originally Posted by waltk88,Mar 17 2009, 07:07 PM
Given the "Club Racer" tag, I'm a bit puzzled why the CR does not have any improvement in roll protection over the base S2000. There are more than a few trackday/DE organizers around the country that won't accept the stock roll hoops.
All the local clubs I checked with will allow me to run with the hardtop attached.
Having said that I do think a removable hardtop is a grey area regarding roll over protection.









