Definitive S2000 CR Thread
Originally Posted by Fubawu,May 17 2007, 08:37 AM
Of course it is still a street car, Honda is not going to risk it's liability insurance on making a car only for the track. I am sure you would have an easy time getting car insurance on a car with a roll bar 5-6 point harness and fire extinguisher?? Insurance companies would not touch this car!!. Everyone is getting to hung up on the name Club Racer
Fubawa, I think you are forgetting the damn thing is so ugly. Good Aero and ugly does not have to go hand in hand. NSX-R was not ugly. CR is just a half ass effort. A type R would have tweaked engine internals. While the NSX-R has the same rated horsepower, the actual power output was much higher due to balanced and hand polished internals. With the F22 engine and the move away from the Tochigi plant, I think the F22 intakes are no longer hand polished like the AP1. Even 06+ wheels are no longer forged wheels.
Provisions need to be made for roll over protection. The detachable hardtop does not cut it. Guys have flip their S2000s and broke their Verterbra because their head was slightly taller than the roll hoops.
What's so damn hard with making 4 inch taller roll hoops
CR is a half baked version and too damn ugly. I hope Honda sells 50 of them total. There can't be that many people in denial about its ugliness
Provisions need to be made for roll over protection. The detachable hardtop does not cut it. Guys have flip their S2000s and broke their Verterbra because their head was slightly taller than the roll hoops.
What's so damn hard with making 4 inch taller roll hoops
CR is a half baked version and too damn ugly. I hope Honda sells 50 of them total. There can't be that many people in denial about its ugliness
fubawu,
Just as an example, a GT3 can be had with all of the above, still street legal, and track worthy with some saftey measures (ie: factgory roll bar and harness bar, though aftermarket are better), great brakes. engine, tranny, and suspension, etc. Honda could have gone that route and made the car track-ready - which in this case means a roll bar, among many other things. The GT3 is still not a race car, but far more ready for the track from the dealer than the S2000 CR. that is the only point I'm making. The CR isn't any such thing - it needs some pretty significant changes to even be allowed on many - if not most - tracks.
I'm not surprised Honda did what they did, but to call it a club racer is patently absurd. It's as much a track or race car as the base S2000 or any other street sports car.
Just as an example, a GT3 can be had with all of the above, still street legal, and track worthy with some saftey measures (ie: factgory roll bar and harness bar, though aftermarket are better), great brakes. engine, tranny, and suspension, etc. Honda could have gone that route and made the car track-ready - which in this case means a roll bar, among many other things. The GT3 is still not a race car, but far more ready for the track from the dealer than the S2000 CR. that is the only point I'm making. The CR isn't any such thing - it needs some pretty significant changes to even be allowed on many - if not most - tracks.
I'm not surprised Honda did what they did, but to call it a club racer is patently absurd. It's as much a track or race car as the base S2000 or any other street sports car.
Originally Posted by m3cosmos,May 17 2007, 11:52 AM
So if Honda called it a type S everyone would be happy?
Expectations. Because Honda fell short on mechanical improvements, we are disappointed. Because Honda took something pretty and made it ugly, we are upset. Then there are the select few who are able to look past the ugly because it is offset by the claimed



