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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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i've had my S for 7 yrs ...and from time to time I'm guilty of this , with no issues to report
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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so no skipping gears when upshifting, but when downshifting (to slow or stop) is okay? so how about downshifting to accelerate?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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Rod is right, double clutch and rev match to skip gears, keep your synchros happy. I do this all the time for lazy commute driving or after revving it out into 4th gear and easing into cruising speed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_clutch
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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Most people say don't do it, and have given the reason why it may be bad. Other's have done it, and had no issues thus far. Drive your car the way you want to drive your car. If whatever you do works for you, then go with that.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bmms8
guys, i am a little confused, there is a lot of "its okay/not okay"

Welcome to "information brought to you by the internet", where really, if you don't have the technical aptitude to know to begin with, you're probably not going to get it by reading from folks' thoughts and experiences


That said, one question I had for folks that say skip-shifting is bad for the synchros: if you're wearing the synchros, shouldn't you still be hearing/feeling some crunching, especially with direct linkage?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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Never have. Enjoy rowing the gears too much
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H
Originally Posted by ZDan' timestamp='1323686679' post='21229480
Geez...
Do it right and it is NO big deal. At all.
Exactly, but too many people don't do it right, and then they conclude it must be bad
They don't have the ability to be self analytical, there is no way they could be wrong, therefore it must be the car that is wrong

Apparently some people like you and I, well, we are anomalies
I can skip shift but I dont... I could double clutch every single shift, up and down, but I dont... Im sure there are many that can, it isnt a super ability. The majority of people though arent quite there yet, which is why the general rule of thumb is just to not do it.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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A mate of mine sailed his yacht around the world.

He would go for weeks without starting his engine, often sailing in & out of places where others would motor. Of course he was a better sailor than most, which enabled him to do this.

No he was not showing off, just saving his engine. He rightly believed that the engine only had so many starts in it from new, & every time he started it, that was one less left.

My gearbox has so many synchro aided selections of each ratio, until it will no longer have that synchro working.

Why on earth would I use up one of those selections, by sticking the thing in a gear I did not want to use?

As a young racing driver with Hewland crash trans-axles in my Brabham F11 & F1, I had no synchro to aid selection. Gears only go in if you have the revs matched perfectly. I bought a 1949 Hillman Minx, [old Pommy thing], & drove it everywhere, with my clutch foot in the parcel tray, under the dash. With no clutch, gears only go in, if you have the revs matched perfectly. I figured it was better to destroy an old car box, rather than my racing car box.

The box was still good 18 months later, when I sold the Hillman, & I had learnt to drive, PROPERLY. Change gears properly, & your Honda won't mind what one you select.

Then for heavens sake stop kidding yourself about things mechanical. Your car does not remember what gear it came out of, when you select the next one, never did, & never will. Learn to drive properly, match your road speed & engine revs, & you won't wear out your synchros either.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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what if the rev match isnt perfect. sometimes ill be off by like 1k rpms or so
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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I agree. Take the chance that you just might save a $4k transmission replacement. Always use the clutch even though it may cost you the race.
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