Does an S2000 really spin/crash that easy?
Honda made the mistake in assuming that the people who bought these cars would know how to drive. The spring rates in the AP1 were setup to allow the front end to dive into a corner, softer in the front and stiffer in the rear. People that didn't know how to drive would then lift the accelerator, or even worse brake, in the midst of a corner which would unload the rear and voila! snap oversteer would occur. The AP2s have equal spring rates front and rear to help combat that issue. Just remember that once you are in the curve, acceleration is your friend!
Well, if you watch early S2000 test videos, you will see what car is capable of and I venture a guess that most times it is driver error which includes bad tires and driver input
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Even early Motorweek test drives show that the car is thrown around with precision without spinning out. Learn how to drive.... This is one of the best handling cars to ever come out of Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgeclXFrSjg
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Even early Motorweek test drives show that the car is thrown around with precision without spinning out. Learn how to drive.... This is one of the best handling cars to ever come out of Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgeclXFrSjg
Originally Posted by Lazyrider69' timestamp='1459019521' post='23919927
Well, if you watch early S2000 test videos, you will see what car is capable of and I venture a guess that most times it is driver error which includes bad tires and driver input
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Even early Motorweek test drives show that the car is thrown around with precision without spinning out. Learn how to drive.... This is one of the best handling cars to ever come out of Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgeclXFrSjg
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Even early Motorweek test drives show that the car is thrown around with precision without spinning out. Learn how to drive.... This is one of the best handling cars to ever come out of Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgeclXFrSjg
This thread is funny/entertaining lol. Just stick to the basics, (most of which have already been mentioned)
- Utilize proper tires - (none of these silly all-season tires)
- Maintain proper tread height - (Your life depends on it)
- Maintain proper tire inflation - (Unlike many other cars, the S2k is VERY sensitive to tire psi)
- Understand the art of suspension tuning - (Don't just buy aftermarket suspension parts just because, understand the geometry behind it)
- KNOW YOUR S2K! - (Become one with your car. Safely familiarize yourself with it's temperaments...Safely familiarize yourself with your limits--->Get some AutoX seat time)
Why did Honda change the suspension and tire size in 2004?
Every change Honda made to suspension (starting in 2000) and tires was meant to reduce the tendency of the car to swap ends "without warning" when mere mortals were driving it. The fact that Formula One and rally drivers had no troubles with it is immaterial.
The car gained this reputation legitimately. Now that you've been warned be careful at those round-abouts.-- Chuck
Originally Posted by jamesac83
The ability to drive other cars like absolute crap and the car be so dead to respond in order to not crash them isn't exactly the shining achievement of an enjoyable car to drive. If that's what you want me to believe, sure whatever. Not really the driving prowess I would shoot for with any sports car. If you hop in one car and expect it to handle like another and in turn loop it, that is your fault. You always pay attention to how the car you're driving is behaving, not the car you thought you were driving.(What kind of reasoning is that, seriously.) The fact here is if you aren't paying attention to how the vehicle is behaving, you will eventually spin it. If the S is such a hard vehicle to drive, why would anyone have one? And knowing that people do have them and drive them, how do they still exist without having been impaled on mountains? I guess in the meantime I shall wait for my car to 'randomly' spin due to mistakes I've made that I won't cop to, or maintenance I've overlooked and won't admit lead to the spin. Can you tell yet, you're not going to get me to buy that the S spins any easier than any other car?
Originally Posted by AP1Driver
The car isn't hard to drive at all; I've never spun once at the track or autoX, but I damn sure get loose and sideways as sideways can be every chance I get, just for fun! I love its handling traits, personally. I've raced various machines my entire life since a small child, starting with karts and motocross, and moved to sports cars when I obtained my drivers license. I'm not trying to get you to "buy" anything; again, you've proven nothing and wasted a whole post on nothing. Goodbye, JameSAC. <img src=/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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' />' />This thread is funny/entertaining lol. Just stick to the basics, (most of which have already been mentioned)
- Utilize proper tires - (none of these silly all-season tires)
- Maintain proper tread height - (Your life depends on it)
- Maintain proper tire inflation - (Unlike many other cars, the S2k is VERY sensitive to tire psi)
- Understand the art of suspension tuning - (Don't just buy aftermarket suspension parts just because, understand the geometry behind it)
- KNOW YOUR S2K! - (Become one with your car. Safely familiarize yourself with it's temperaments...Safely familiarize yourself with your limits--->Get some AutoX seat time)
Not trying to offend anyone, just a noob question from someone new to the S2000/RWD cars.
That about sums it up what I've read here, thank you.
We'll probably just get a KW V3 and call it a day suspension wise. Already has a front strut bar on it, not sure how this affects an S2000 but I've had no problems so far so I'll just leave it on.
And anyone using a rear strut bar on their car? Does it make a difference whatsoever?
I know it's just a strutbar but in some cars you can really tell the difference when you install a good set of strut bars.










