[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bravnik

 

well said.

 

I just hope that someone learned a lesson. Maybe someone reading this forum even.

 

I dont want this to become some deabate of age. Bravnik I dont know much about freemont california, but in north va its quite ridiculos what you will see teens driving. My freinds own some that would really make your skin crawl if you think me in an s2k is bad, 1994 RX-7, 03' Lancer evolution, 03' 350z ,02 Is300, s240sx (maroon 1 on evlotuions site).That doesnt mean i should have a S2k, all im saying is in this area its seems your views of what kids my age should drive is far off form the majority of parents here. Believe me when I tell you me and my freinds ae not an exception. I went up and down that road yesterday for an hour recreating my crash it's a sharp left then it lays you on to the straight where i crashed. The posted speed limit is 25mph I was doing 35 around the turn. By the time i saw the ice it was toward the last 3rd of the corner. Which ment to nail the brakes from 35 would have caused the rear to get shakey I wouldnt of lost it but i wouldn't have stoped before the patch of ice in time either. Now the only way i could see a s2k getting through the ice and not know the ice was there and having to react wehre i did. Would be if you braked real hard i mean yor talkin stopin form 35 in 20-30 ft. which would have been hairy as the turn has nartual camber to it and its downhill, I dont know as i dont have exact measurements but you still would have crossed the ice at 5-10mph with all the weight on the front dirverside of the suspension and with the camber and hill i think you would still slide. Unless you had snow tires that is if they perfrom as well as other memebers noted above. I did slow down to about 20-25 before the ice obviously way to fast for ics on s-02s in 20F. weather. Again I appreciate all the concern.


Thanks,
Matt

 

Matt, I want to thank you for not flying out of control in your posts. Many younger owners have come on and been badgered a bit about their age by us "older" owners. They post nonsense in response that only justifies everyones reaction. Your posts are thought out, easy to read and not immature (you may want to hit the spellcheck button every now and then). I really appreciate your tolerance through some of the negativity you've received.

Your situation is one that I've been in before many times (although I didn't wreck). Going 35 in a 25 is not out of line, I would venture to guess that 85% of S2000 owners (and probably most other vehicle owners) have, will or currently do this regardless of the outside temperature.

It sucks with what happened to your car. I'm sure there was a lesson learned from it as there probably is in all accidents.

Again, thank you for not flipping out when someone blames your age as a factor in this.

 

 

For a second there, I thought that was a RHD...then I noticed the windshield...
Glad to see that there were no serious injuries

 

Quick thoughts. Those pics could be just about every other back road I've traveled in Vermont
and Maine. One has to be VERY careful in wooded areas during this time of year
because the abundance of trees usually prevents all frozen precipitation from melting
properly and you'll often come across patches of ice. In many cases, you don't even
have to be pushing the car hard at all.
I could tell just by looking at the road surface that the SO-2's probably were running
at about 1/4 of their ability (with temps and road surface in mind).
Glad you're ok but always remember. A road like that....I don't care if it looks clear or not...
probably is going to present one with a dangerous situation somewhere between its point
A and point B. I used to save drives like that for the other three seasons. Too much
mother nature doing her thing and the S2000 doesn't take too kindly to much of anything
shy of clean asphalt.

 

I just wish i new that on saturday morning.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bravnik