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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:08 AM
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I have been amazed at the number of wrecks and crashes lately...

It's good that nothing more than a buised ego has been the worst of the damage...but I am wondering, what's the deal with all the wrecks lately!?

One hypothesis: Is it because of the cooling weather and people aren't getting the tires up to temp, doing something borderline and pushing over the edge and wrecking?!

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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:15 AM
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I think the cold weather has something to do with it for sure. I'm guilty of a fishtail 180 coming out of a parking lot at 11:30pm last week ended up backwards on the wrong side on the road, damn tires were ice cold and I just had a heavy foot(as always). It was a ghost town where i was so all was fine but if it would have happened somewhere else it could have been ugly... I'll be paying more attention to tire temp from now on....
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:22 AM
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Cold is a real problem with sticky high-performance tires like the S02. A Bridgestone engineer once told me that their recommended operating temperature was 44deg F and above.

Rain and wet leaves mixed with the cold make this season even more hazardous.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:25 AM
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Tires, I think. Either Greg's theory or that more cars are aging to the poing of wearing them.

I think Honda made some big mistakes (to get a .9g magazine number) when they customized these tires.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:34 AM
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You just have to get used to it, and learn to take it easy.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:39 AM
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It seems like 90% of the accidents are driver error.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:41 AM
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I'll agree with iceman, I have on occasion pushed it too much, and almost lost it, in the rain, and in the cold, but I also drive it like I stole it all the time.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:46 AM
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Gregstevens,

I think it's the temp as well. My AVSs aren't warming up either. I constantly get slight fishtails in high rpm 1-2shifts.

Of course that is a far cry from WEBTHRASH who consistently tries to wipe out small towns.....

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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:48 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ZoomZoom
[B]Of course that is a far cry from WEBTHRASH who consistently tries to wipe out small towns.....
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Iceman
It seems like 90% of the accidents are driver error.
Sure, I think drivers are 100% liable for accidents! Except in the case where something like a suspension component fails and causes a wreck. I have also found that many times it's the conditions that the driver was doing something inappropriate...and in many of those cases, it's because of the cold. The S02 is fine in rain, standing water is a little different, but cold is what you need to watch out for...it's really just that simple. Get those damn tires warm...!

Lest we not forget what happened on Jan. 20, 2000.

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