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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AP5512,Sep 6 2010, 08:56 PM
Normally, when I shift the lunging only occurs when I depress the clutch pedal..not when the clutch is re-engaged. I've just always noticed it when I press the clutch down...
yes, this is because of momentum

an object in motion wants to stay in motion. I don't think it can be helped, regardless of how well you can shift
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ralper,Sep 6 2010, 12:11 PM
My dilemna is this, the only three cars that interest me for a daily driver are the BMW 335 (I'd love to buy the 335D), the Honda CR-Z and the Honda Si.
335i is trash. Engine is awesome when it works, and delivers an impressive powerband, but the car will be in the shop every few months for turbos, high pressure pumps, injectors, etc.

335d is a much more impressive vehicle. HP is not all there. Im not sure why people think high revs=a good car, but if you're one of those people, you're obviously not likely to be impressed. But the engine is tried and true in Europe, makes TONS of torque, and gets fantastic fuel mileage. It will also spend considerably less time in the shop.

Oh...Im a BMW tech.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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[QUOTE=ginaprincess,Sep 6 2010, 08:37 AM]
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CreAziaN,Sep 6 2010, 10:46 PM
i used to have an 06 SI before I got the s2k, the SI handles pretty damn well in stock form. It grips like crazy, having pushed it pretty hard I would know. The LSD in the SI from the factory is great, something the RSX-S lacked

Shifting feel in the SI was HORRIBLE. I don't feel every shift like I do in the S when I row through the gears. The REV HANG is the only downfall of the SI. Besides the rev hang and poor throttle response from the DBW, the SI is an excellent car

Having owned both, the S2K dominates the SI in every category minus cargo space
the rev hang is really bad. dont you think a lighter flywheel might take care of that? i dont know if my S did it when it had the stock flywheel. it doesnt do it now because i got a 11 lb flywheel
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AP5512,Sep 6 2010, 06:58 AM
I've always wondered since the day I got my S as to why my shifting feels so much rougher than an ordinary car. In the Si you could barely tell I was shifting...meaning the shifting was effortless (sort of boring), I barely had to move the stick to another gear, the clutch pedal didn't have to go a long distance to be disengaged, and it was VERY smooth shifting with no jerks or lurching. I know many times when we shift in the S2K we can see the passenger sort of lunge forward from their seat. I don't really have a point to this post but just wondering if all or most manual transmissions are smoother than the S?
Drive some more manual cars. They're all different but the cars that most people tend to buy as DD's tend to be more forgiving. The last one I drove was a Corolla that my brother bought. It didn't seem to care what you did with the shifter. I wouldn't call the shifting smooth but numb. Overall, I felt very detached from the car and found it actually more difficult to drive.

And practice shifting smoothly.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ginaprincess,Sep 6 2010, 11:10 AM
ok, then here a few examples

- Be careful where you park it, you never know who can steal it
- snows heavy. Hmm..... I have RWD, wish me good luck
- My girlfrriend has a friend that wants to come along. Ooops....... it only has 2 front seats. I guess she can't come with us
- I just bought tons of stuffs..... oh noooo the trunk is too small and no back seats that fold down for extra room

Should I go on how the S2k is just NOT a practical car for dd?
My car doesn't get a 2nd look where I live. It's a bone stock ap1. No one pays attention to it. They think it's a Miata.

No snow here. Top stays down all winter.

If my girlfriends want to come with us, we'll take a different car. Everyone has a car here. In fact, my roommate and I both drive S2000's. We don't mind taking both cars if needed.

I bought tons of stuff? It'll fit. Promise. I'm not the type of person to make a large purchase without planning ahead. Any of my friends would love to trade cars for a day if I needed a truck to haul something. Yes, I trust them.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:49 AM
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Civics all shift easily. I dare say that a civic is one of the easiest manual transmission cars to lean to drive stick on.

The S2000 is a whole different beast. With the S2000 you have to launch at the right rpm and not allow the rpms to fall as you launch so as not to bog the engine down. You have to be precise and smooth shifting between gears as to not shock the drivetrain and cause the "jolt" the OP is referring to.

I drive a civic and Prelude as DD's and going back to the S2000 I have to be less sloppy in my shifting and clutch releases to drive the S as smoothly.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterForce,Sep 7 2010, 05:28 AM
the rev hang is really bad. dont you think a lighter flywheel might take care of that? i dont know if my S did it when it had the stock flywheel. it doesnt do it now because i got a 11 lb flywheel
flywheel might help, but the DBW is a major drawback for the new SI

Supposedly Hondata's Flashpro fixes the rev hang, but why would you have to spend 600 on something + tuning just to make it run normal? Makes no sense

The DBW in the s2k is fine though, i can barely even notice it (gf has a MY07)
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