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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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cusco is for looks, it will not pass the requirements for nasa or scca
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:00 AM
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A quote from Ludedude from the Group Buy Forum.

[QUOTE]Posted: Apr 14 2005, 01:10 AM
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:42 AM
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Ouch, that's a bummer. I feel bad for Mike, and anyone else who ordered the bar. I hope Go Fast Labs can get these bars out to customers. They are worth the wait, but I know I would be really bummed. Hang in there everyone, and I hope you get good news soon.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by New Concept,Apr 14 2005, 05:32 AM
Can someone justify the extra $450 spent for this bar as opposed to the cusco roll cage?
and how much of a handling difference will there be with a added roll cage in a s2k?
The rollbar will not substantially change the handling at all. It's a safety device, not to improve handling. There is *some* stiffening gained but the S2000 is pretty stiff already. I know I can't feel any significant flexing, even on r-compound tires.

As for the blingin Cusco bar:
Originally posted by payneinthe:

Substandard pipe diameter. What's the wall thickness? i'm going to guess insubstantial.

Bends in the main hoop

Bends in the fore-aft braces

Fore-aft braces that do not go straight back!

Tubing too close to the driver's head

Any direction you put force on the bar, except possibly straight back, the bar will buckle

Are you really so confident in it that you would risk your customers' lives on it? How much do you think their families will want when the bar crushes on them, breaking their neck, causing more injuries than without the bar? Do you think they'll just forget who peddled them the bar? Yeah right....

And for the record, if you search in this forum on the Mugen bar, you'll find similar flaws were pointed out about it. Safety items should be engineered for safety, not for looks. When you get a chance, take a look at the design of the Elda bar. It's textbook. Main hoop has only the 2 bends. Fore-aft bracing attaches low and goes straight back at 40* inclusion angle. Monster mounting plates. That's how you build a safe bar. Not by including 6 bends and 50 ugly tack welds, then spray painting ricer blue to hide the poor workmanship.

Your ass... you decide.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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the bar is nice.. i got closer pics of the bar on crazycrackers car.. where the cutting was done....
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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hmmm.... so there arent any other roll cages out there that have equal safety, are made with equal quality, but cost less?

btw, whats lighter, chromoly or stainless steel?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Daveg27,Apr 14 2005, 06:33 AM
take a look at the design of the Elda bar. It's textbook. Main hoop has only the 2 bends. Fore-aft bracing attaches low and goes straight back at 40* inclusion angle. Monster mounting plates. That's how you build a safe bar. Not by including 6 bends and 50 ugly tack welds, then spray painting ricer blue to hide the poor workmanship.

Your ass... you decide.
i couldn't say that better myself.

good luck go fast labs. i hope you get those drawings and produce an amazing roll bar. hope it happens sooner than later.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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blue03s2k,

I would appreciate it if you could post the close up pictures of cuts on CrazyCracker82 car.

I still want the roll bar, I just got to wait until Go Fast Lab offers them again.

Aloha,
Mike
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