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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Adis82,Apr 4 2008, 01:51 PM
I release the parachute.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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[QUOTE=qbmurderer13,Apr 3 2008, 10:00 PM]Just curious as to how everybody decelerates theyre car in day to day driving since I usually put it in neutral and brake. I know it puts more wear on the brake pads but im trying to get into the habit of rev matching. Be honest
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ks320,Apr 4 2008, 07:48 AM
When coming up to a redlight with some traffic:
Brake, usually downshift w/rev-match to 4th or 3rd if I'm at 5th or 6th (not skipping gears) and shove into neutral when car is about to stall -- well, just before that. I never coast in neutral until I feel the revs have dropped low enough and the car's slow enough for that. I know some people shove it into neutral when the car's going at 40mph when coming up to a light ... imo, that's dangerous.

If coming up a set of turning lights:
And need to stop quickly (i.e. realized I can't quite make it through the yellow light), then just brake hard and jam into neutral.

Other cases? Bleh .... revmatch!!!!
Uhh, yeah, like he said.

Let's say you're going 30-40, approaching a stop light. You should NOT simply throw it in neutral and coast, or disengage the clutch and coast. Leave the thing in gear, as if you suddenly need power to extract yourself from a dangerous situation, you don't need to waste precious milliseconds putting it back in gear.

Typically in this situation I will rev-match down one gear and coast up to the light allowing engine braking to help slow the car. Then, JUST before it stalls, usually coordinated with arriving at the light, I'll disengage the clutch and neutral.

PLEASE don't put it in neutral or disengage the clutch and coast up to stops. It really is unsafe. Also, it's really unnecessary wear and tear to downshift 5-4-3-2-1 for example. But, if you wanna do it, do it.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by allenp,Apr 4 2008, 05:25 PM
PLEASE don't put it in neutral or disengage the clutch and coast up to stops. It really is unsafe. Also, it's really unnecessary wear and tear to downshift 5-4-3-2-1 for example. But, if you wanna do it, do it.
OK, I agree that coasting in neutral or with the clutch disengaged is not a good idea, but exactly how do you believe downshifting is causing this so called "unnecessary wear." IMO, that's just
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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like many people said, depends on situation, if its a stoplight then N , if still moving downshift, its pointless to downshift when you know your gonna stop, puts unnecessary wear on the transmission
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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ebrake not an option either?
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by detonator2x,Apr 4 2008, 06:16 PM
ebrake not an option either?
Hahaha, I've been in a situation once where that was the ONLY option.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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man some of you dont know what you're doing when driving manual. throw it in neutral and brake? why? if i'm coming to a stop i brake in gear and then right before the stop i clutch in and put gear into neutral.

also rev matching isn't used for "slowing down" it's used to match the engine speed and trans speed so u don't feel the jerk when you downshift. if done correctly you're not suppose to feel any difference in the car and you should be in the same speed. if anything you should be braking in gear to slow down then rev match if you want to speed back up. this can be simultaneously done in heel toe which is braking and throwing the trans into a lower gear so you don't upset the balance of the car. however i don't see the point in heel toeing every gear until you stop b/c ...that's just stupid. but if ur in 5th gear and gotta make a sharp turn then you should go 5-4-3-and 2.

now i'm not an expert or anything, i've only been driving stick for maybe 7-8 months but it annoys me when people don't know how to correctly drive manual. all it takes is some searching and practice. i think it's better to learn correct the first time so when ur body gets used to it you don't have to fix your habits if you learned it wrong the first time.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Apr 4 2008, 02:29 PM
OK, I agree that coasting in neutral or with the clutch disengaged is not a good idea, but exactly how do you believe downshifting is causing this so called "unnecessary wear." IMO, that's just
how is that bs? if you're coming to a complete stop, and instead of hitting the brakes to stop say you d/s to 1 everytime. that won't cause unnecessary wear? you're using the engine and transmission to stop instead of the brakes. not to mention pointless. if you're making a sharp turn ahead and gotta d/s from 5 to 2nd then yes you do 5-4-3-2-turn but i don't see why you would put more work on the engine/tranny to stop when you have brakes that are meant to do just that: stop. but if thas your style then oh well
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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I mix and match. I rev match and downshift (and brake), usually till second gear (first is just too damn short). From second i tend to brake it to near a stop, shift into nuetral, and coast to a complete stop (at the gas station ).

I do, however, minimize my use of "engine braking" because brakes are a lot cheaper to replace than engine mounts and shit. I doubt it causes a lot of wear, but why risk it with the expensive parts eh? I use the brakes to slow the car down and downshift to keep the car ready to take the hell off again .
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