Just to represent the other side of the view - I'm not a proponent of TC'ing. Why stress the engine and drivetrain? The S2000 is about handling finesse with reasonably adequate power/acceleration. High compression engines don't make good candidates for TC'ing. Some folks have tried it with the NSX and the bang for the buck is not there unless you lower compression etc etc. An SC seems to be the most reliable and better form of FI - of which i'm not a big fan of also. Given a different engine, I'd be ok with the TC or SC.

 

Halaloooooooooooooooya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Onward through the fog!

Gary Emerson
If it ain't broke, make it faster.
Y2K S2000
2000 YZF-R1, 2000 CBR929RR, 2001 GSX-R1000

 

S2ktaxi
In some respect, I agree with you in regards to the high compression and the turbo. That being said, is the primary reason I am testing so long and not releasing any information until I am confident in the engine's ability to hold up under the added stress. In the long run the kit will include a new, thicker, head gasket to lower the compression, and a new cam shaft to compensate for the turbo, as well as the timing difference of moving the head off of the block (verry slightly)
So far the kit is going to include
Manifold, turbo, ecu, cams, head gasket, intercooler,mounting hardware, and half a dozen other things. This is not a complete list, but should give you a good idea as to what I am after

Please keep in mind that my focus on this project is not purely numbers, but more of driveable power, as well as maintaining reliability.

I will be starting a new thread soon so that we can discuss the topic at hand; sound good to you?

If there are any further questions, ask away on the new thread

Mark

 

Mark,

When you start the new thread, make sure you provide a link to it in this thread so we don't have to go looking around for it everywhere.

 

Uh, not trying to be difficult here, just not sure I'm understanding you. What happened to the stock internals version that I thought I understood you to say was ready to go in mid-October? This is the version I've said all along I would be interested in, and there are a number of people who said the same. And back then, you said you expected test results on that configuration in a month or so. I know several people want to go balls-out, but those of us who don't are still anxious to see your results.

cal

 

Oops, I got too far ahead of myself, Kits CAN include cams, head gasket etc.
Sorry, my head has been elsewhere
The stock internal kit was successfully produced in Oct., but I felt it neccessary to test it fully before having you all be able to buy it. This measure was taken in order to avoid any problems with the kit.
As for other items (cams etc.) they will only increase the reliability of the whole "base kit"

The focus that I mentioned above is prevailent throughout the entire line. The "balls out" kit can make well over 700 hp, but at a hefty price. I expect production models of the stock internal kit to be making 400 or so and adding the gasket and cams to that should add 50 or more hp. These are all preliminary, although they have been proven.

This is the last post I will place on this thread, the rest will be on a new one, that will have a link to this thread and from this thread to it (thanks for the reminder MarkS2K). I will post it tommorw.

Thanks
Mark DiGrappa

 

I happen to be in the market for a Turbo set -up right now! I would be most likely to purchase a stock internal, low to "mid" boost turbo with a thicker head gasket. As far as price goes I think that anything below what Speedcraft charges would be attractive...and sell. (Nothing against Speedcraft, the're great)

 

As I am searching for a new car, mdigrappa, your kit could make my decision for me. My previous car was an E46 M3, but it was totalled as a tree fell on it. Now, I need something with similar performance.

I would be very seriously interested in your kit if:

1) It was very Reliable. As close to stock reliability as possible.
2) It had measured performance increases. Who cares about more power if it doesn't translate to performance?
3) The kit intalled was less than 10K.
4) The install was clean.
5) The car remained very drivable in all conditions.

Thanks. Good luck with your project.

 

How can you determine reliability?

 

M3
I believe that I will offer what you are looking for, except, that it will be more drivable than stock ( more bottom end that you have grown acustom to in the M ) I owned a 500 hp S4 twin turbo, that was an everyday driver; that kind of power/reliability is what I am going for.

taxi- the only way to determine reliability is to flog the bejezus out of one poor car and see if it breaks. Hence the reason it is taking so long to release figures and prices as well as components of my kit; the car has not broken yet and no problems have come up.

Hope this helps