you really don't have to jack the car up to remove the drain. just turn your front wheels all the way to the left. and use a very long extension to take of the drain plug.

Seems like it won't work, but i managed to do it 3 times now. you need to put a jack under the extension, to loosen the bolt.

but back to the subject. When i installed the comptech rear lower brace i jacked up as shown at this location: picture.

I didn't use jack stands just cement hollow block with a 4x6x10 wood block on top and place it at the same location as the picture above. way more stable than the jackstands, and distributes the load across a wider area.

 

So your saying that xviper is wrong

I don't know about your S, but mine has two designated spots behind each front wheel that are jacking points which are described in my owners manual. Both these points are very strong.

Anyhow, what I do is jack up either of the front corners at a designated jacking point about 4-5", then the front bumper is now high enough to place my other, larger floor jack underneath the front subframe and lift the entire front end of the ground as high as I need to, and place both jack stands in their proper location. I then jack up the diff, then place both jackstands in their respective locations.

 

I beg to differ. Have you read your owners manual lately???

I suppose you think xviper is wrong also? The owners manual is also wrong.

 

The shop manual for my car clearly says that the "second" place behind the front wheel is the correct jack point, not the first one.

The first one looks fin, but I'd rather not find out the hard way that the shop manual actually is right, by assuming it's wrong.

Be my guest, however.

 

Ok, I just got under my car and looked closely at both jacking points. The 1st point (closest to the wheel) is shorter in length, but it is noticeably thicker than the second point which is longer in length than the first jacking point.

It would appear to me that both of these points are more than adequate for jacking purposes. I noticed that you have a MY04. I have a MY03. Maybe our cars are differen't.

I don't doubt your expertise in automotive repair, I am just trying to help. It appears that there are differences between our cars in the designated jacking areas.

 

And I do appreciate it. Actually, I have relatively little expertise in car repair, and I agree that both look strong. It's just that my Honda shop manual has a clear picture, with an arrow pointing only to the second place. If there were no other way to get all four wheels up at the same time, I would use it (and, in fact, did use it before I looked carefully at the shop manual, with no apparent damage).

 

You could use the scissor jack that came with your car to raise one of the front corners about 4-5". Then your hydrolic jack would fit underneath the front bumper so you could use the front subframe to raise the entire front end of the car as high as you want, then place both jackstands in their designated places. Then you could use the diff to raise the entire rear of the car as high as you want and place both stands in their designated places.

I myself have two hydrolic jacks, it is very easy for me to do this, but you could use the scissor jack if you had to.

 

Hi, sorry I missed your post.

I have a Harbor Freight aluminum low-profile jack so I no problem jacking up at the rear diff point with the front on jack stands.

I suggest you just try it and see. If it doesn't work, perhaps it's time to order a low profile jack.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=47246

 

The point under xviper's jack is soft. If you jack there you will bend it. I believe xviper has mentioned before that he has already bent that area but he doesn't mind.

Feel free to try for yourself. I found out the hard way, so I am just trying to spread the knowledge. YMMV

 

I would think that your exhaust tips would hit the ground well before the bumper would get in the way. What you could do is, when placing the front stands in their respective locations, use the lowest settings on the jack stands. Then when you place the hydrolic jack underneath the rear of the car, you may have to place the jack handle in a lowered position so it doesn't hit the bumper. You will definitly have to keep the jack handle in the down position when you place the hydrolic jack underneath the front subframe. Once you have all four jacks underneath your car, you can go back and raise the front stands if you wish (rear as well) I guarantee you will not have any problem with the rear bumper.