versionjdm,

Believe it or not, I've read every page in that thread, and the only dyno I've seen losing power was the one testing the J's. Not discounting anyone's statements, but can SOMEONE, ANYONE, PROVE that the DC Header loses power on a stock car (and be sure to say whether it was the stainless or ceramic.)

Thanks for your time.

 

Sorry, versionJDM, I didn't intend to imply that you or anyone else with more tuning knowledge than me (i.e. practically everyone on this site) is wrong here. My intent was to say that regardless of the numbers, the OP feels like it made and improvement, so in my mind, that's okay. Yes, it's fine to give the OP the real numbers from those with experience because he challenged anyone who doesn't believe to a test drive.

Anyhow, I learn much from you "older guys" so please don't think I'm against what you offer to the forum.

MAS

 

 

I accept the comments from those that have been around the S for a while and know what they are talking about. Like MAS said I just felt like the car was improved. I have never driven another S and mine came with the HKS and AEM when I bought it. So I have never driven one stock either.

It would be nice if someone could meet up with me and they could test drive mine and could drive theirs to see how different it really is. If it did lose power and its in my head it couldn't have been much. Like I said before it was too inexpensive to pass up and try. Some day I would like to move up to the big boy parts but for now I will stick with what I have.

Anyone that wants to come by let me know!

 

Congrats on the mod.
If you cant find anyone for a test drive/comparison. try going to the dealer for a test drive. its really easy to get a test drive, especially in the used car section

 

pr your lucky, around here its impossible to ge to testdrive an S....even you drive up in one

 

I have only 1 of 4 in town. The 4th one is sitting at the new car lot. I don't think I could get a test drive if they didn't think I was serious about buying. I will try that though the next time I take a trip.

 

Exactly. A local member by me had a PRM intake (loses power), OBX header (loses power), Megan test pipe, and apexi single exhaust. The intake and header were heat wrapped also. He had a VAFC2 (which is on my car now, and for sale) which was TUNED and only made 205 rwhp.

This was a 2000 model, which benefits the MOST from the VAFC tune, and he only made 205 rwhp. Thinking the motor was really old and high miles? Nope - it had only 33k miles on the odometer.

Want to know what happened? The intake and header. They both are known to lose power, and without that VAFC2 tune he was probably in the 190 region, and that's WITH the single exit apexi exhaust AND megan test pipe that might've made back power. Without the exhaust and test pipe, he would've been in the 180s on a dynojet.

It's not that we're dogging him for buying a part and liking it, it's that he's making the car slower than it is in stock form. By all means, enjoy your header. Just make sure you get a tuning device and get it tuned by a professional so you can gain back your lost hp.

 

I do have the VAFC II also but it's still at the stock settings. Around here I have to travel a ways to find a good tuner. I told my mechanic who is honda certified about all the comments on the header losing power. He said to him my car has a lot more powerful drive to it than the stock ones he has worked on. It could also be the intake and the all powerful HKS (sarcasm) that have made the difference. Either way someday I will ditch the DC and move up to a turbo or supercharger, for now I am enjoying the little things that make a difference.

This header is freakin light and the airflow design is straight to the testpipe without all the extra bending like the stockone.

I take your guy's word on it that some may have lost power. One member on here also said he lost power from his J's header too though.

How many people can back up there words and post their dynos of losing power with the DC header? You said there were hundred's of tests done now I would like to see them on paper. You asked the same thing from me its only fair that you can show me the loss also.