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I wanted to post my experience with the Panther pads. I had the Panther pads, NOT the Panther Plus, on my Integra GSR. I used them as daily driver pads on the street (not a good idea). The pads performed great, good stopping power both cold and hot. The dust was VERY corrosive, as Andie implied.

If used on the track, it would be easy enough to clean off after the session or day. However, I used them on my daily driver (again, not a good idea) and the high metallic content of the dust rusted and bonded very heavily to the wheels. Eventually, since I did not clean my wheels every single day of driving, the dust corroded and bonded to my wheels permenantly, and they were ruined.

Be careful using pads that are meant for the track on a daily driver. You can ruin your wheels this way. Andie is very straight forward in stating that the regular Panther compound dust is corrosive, take that to heart for a daily driver. I look forward to trying the Panther Plus after I've used up my Hawk Blue pads (the Panther pads were awesome).

Clark

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clark
[B]I wanted to post my experience with the Panther pads. I had the Panther pads, NOT the Panther Plus, on my Integra GSR. I used them as daily driver pads on the street (not a good idea). The pads performed great, good stopping power both cold and hot. The dust was VERY corrosive, as Andie implied.

 

Interesting... The Carbotech Panther Plus sounds like it could be a good alternative street/track pad.

I've been using the Porterfield R4-S, so I would really like to hear a comparative review from someone who has used both.

Andie, I would also be interested in your comparison of the two, if you feel comfortable doing that. Is there a specific application for the S2000, or will we need to do filing/Dremel work to make them fit? Any thoughts on the "constant chirping" that Alan described? Finally, what is the cost for these pads? Do any of our sponsors carry them (or will you become a sponsor and offer a discount?)

Thanks,

Ted

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tedster
[B]Interesting... The Carbotech Panther Plus sounds like it could be a good alternative street/track pad.

 

Warning! If you've ordered or are ordering Panther Plus pads, be sure to check you received the correct parts.

I was just about to install mine when I noticed that the rear pads I was sent were the (corrosive) Panther pads, not the (inert) Panther Plus I had ordered. The front pads were the correct Panther Plus.

The (incorrect) rear Panthers I received were painted gold, the front Panther Plus I received are a standard dark grey.

I'm sure Carbotech will make the situation right. But if I hadn't noticed their error, the corrosive dust could easily have destroyed my rear wheels.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mikey
[B]Warning! If you've ordered or are ordering Panther Plus pads, be sure to check you received the correct parts.

I was just about to install mine when I noticed that the rear pads I was sent were the (corrosive) Panther pads, not the (inert) Panther Plus I had ordered.

 

I just wanted to add this sidenote for Mikey and others:

If you explicitly request the Panther Plus in the FRONT and the REAR, we will certainly deliver this setup to you. However, PLEASE BE AWARE that you MAY experience rear brake lock-up with this setup. The OPTIMAL setup follows below. Alternatively, if you like the strong initial bite and other qualities of the Panther Plus in the front, but will absolutely NOT stand for any kind of corrosive dusting in the rear, then you could also get a set of Porterfield R4S (can be dusty in some applications) or Axxis Ultimates for the rears; my choice would be the Axxis Ultimates in the rear (I _believe_ they make it for the S2000...not 100% sure.)

This is NOT my/our recommended setup for the S2000. My recommended setup is Panther Plus in the FRONT and the Panther in the REAR. I do not see the Panther in the rear, due to the amount of braking (and thus dust "creation") that is performed out back, to be a significant corrosion liability to your wheels _IF_ you wash your car after each event, and also once a week during street driving.

That being said, _I_ personally HAVE ruined the finish on one set of Forgelines from testing 3 sets of the Panther (front and rear), in both a combination of hard track driving and street driving. However, I only wash my car twice a month (if that often), and don't wipe down my wheels.

Lastly, I had intended to suggest this earlier, but it slipped my mind. Do you guys know that 3M clear plastic/laminate stuff that comes in sheets to protect paint (the Porsche 993 has it on the front of the rear fenders) and/or headlamps from rock chips? Well, you can buy this stuff in rolls/sheets. I recommend using this on the inside circumference of your wheels, REGARDLESS of the pad compound you use. The reason for this is that even if you wash your car, it is very difficult to get to this part of the wheel, because it is behind the spokes and the rest if behind the brake and wheel hub assembly. Therefore, even with a good soap and strong shot of water to the wheels, this area of the wheel will not get very clean. Using this 3M clear stuff will protect your wheels very well, and will increase their resale value if you so decide to sell them later on. Just a suggestion.

Andie

 

Hmmm... as an S2000 owner who is looking for a street/track pad, and drives his S2000 daily in Seattle, and washes his car every two to three weeks, if he can find a non-rainy weekend day, this is an important issue.

Does anyone have actual experience driving the S2000 with Panther Plus pads both rear and front?

Thanks,

Ted

 

I'm basically lazy and I probably won't wash my car once a week, much less after every event. I would prefer not to change my pads for every event, either. So a "dusty," corrosive pad is of no interest to me.

So what does that leave for the rear? Certainly not the Panthers. Maybe R4S. Haven't seen these Axxis (?) mentioned before. Ultimate Finish says on their web site:

Repco / Axxis Brake Pads

- Proven high performance stopping power.
- Excellent pedal feel.
- Virtually no fade.
- Improved cold effectiveness.
- Extended pad life.
- Street or track
- Very little brake dust

Sounds great to me if they have them available for S2ks. (I e-mailed an inquiry.)

cal