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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wuttheheezy,Mar 10 2009, 08:46 AM
sorry to burst your bubble homeboy.. but ap1's are not equipped with traction control...
You, owning yourself.

PS. No offense, I've been waiting for an excuse to post that vid.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:10 AM
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i have a radical alignment on my CR, along with 225/50-16 all seasons all around (for mileage/ride comfort) and i leave the traction control on when on the public roads as the car has a tendency to be loose.

when i get to the track, and spoon on the 275/295 combo, traction control is immediately off.

what i am trying to say is there is a time and place where traction control is usefull.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Thanks for all the replies.

1. Yes, I did do some light research on tires. And, as others have stated, these tires are supposed to be decent. I'm not expecting the same performance as the original tires, but I was hoping for something that didn't cause TC to kick in every other corner (exaggeration).

2. Yes, I know mixing tires is a bad idea for optimal performance. Again, didn't think it would be THIS bad.

3. I too thought it was the releasing agent. But, I've driven about ~200 miles and still have the issue.

4. The tire size is the same as stock tires. I'm guessing actual tire circumference may be marginally different due to different manufacturer/model. But, I doubt that minor of a difference would cause this problem.

Overall, I'm just surprised that TC kicks in so easily with my current setup. And, I wanted to see if anyone thought anything was wrong with my car. Sounds like my expectations for this tire setup was too high...

Thanks everyone for all of your input.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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so, nooob AP2 question, but TC can't be turned off at all?
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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WOW!! i bet he didn't think of that! oh but it is a pain in the butt to turn it off every time you get in the car. it is automatically on every time you start the car, fwiw.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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well on an NSX it's just one button??? I've never even set foot in a AP2 so I dunno how hard they could make it.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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well, yeah its just one button that you have to hold down, but i guess its like me turning on my lights every time i get inside the car and turning the cluster to the highest setting. doing that and turning vsa off would just be too much. oh well.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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I have a hard time believing that your TC is going crazy because of the different amount of grip on your rear tires. The amount of grip on your tires wouldn't matter if none of your wheels are slipping (unless they are slipping and you don't feel it... in that case parts of the previous arguments do make sense).

I think it has more to do with the rear tire sizes being different from stock and the front not balanced with the rears. Even if you picked stock sizes, it's likely that a 245/40/17 of another make/model will have a different OD than your stock tires. What size rear tire did you pick up, BTW? The way TC works is it measures wheel speeds at all 4 corners, yaw rate, and steering angle to determine whether or not that car is under or oversteering and it applies brake to different corners to correct these things. I'm thinking that because of the different tires in the back, the system thinks something is happening when it isn't. An inaccurate message is being sent from the rear wheel speed sensors. Can you tell what corners brake is being sent to?

Traction control=silly idea for the S, it doesn't have that much power, and it shouldn't be driven by noobs. Sorry if that sounds snobby, it's because I am an S2000 snob, and I'm not ashamed. I know when I see another ap1 going quickly, that the individual is (must be) a capable driver.

I know the limits of the car and my tires, I don't need a computer making that decision for me.
Hah, better get used to it. FMVSS 126 is mandating that all MY2012 and newer cars under 10,000 lbs have ESC.

EDIT - just read that you got the same size as stock. OD according to tire rack for the BFG is 24.7" (841 revs/mile) and the RE050 is 24.8" (840 revs/mile). Doesn't seem like that big of a difference to me, but the S2K is a sensitive car so who knows? Have you checked your tire pressures? That will have an effect as well.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Collen, I gotta see your car now. glad to see you changed your sig pic! ahha
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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if there is a meet this week or the next one I'll be there. then I'll be gone for about a month to Utah.
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