Have any of you actually tried to drift the S at the track? I personally find it very hard..as opposed to my lexus IS300 that i had before. perfect balance on that car =)

 

the first day i got my car i spun out a little bit. It was snowing, i wasn't even going fast. i just applied a little to much gas while turning.... My dad was driving behind me and was like WTF??!??! hahahha. good thing i didn't hit anything.

 

+1

 

Yes, but not in a sanctioned event.

When my car was new (bone stock) I couldn't drift the car well at all. Getting a stable drift with large slip angles was tough enough, but changing the direction of a drift was beyond my skill level. After a year stock (except for an AEM V1) I may have improved a little, but not much.

Now we have the car set up so that the front tires do more of the work when cornering, and between that and the FI the car is MUCH easier to drift.

Disclaimer - I am not a "drifter" and my car isn't really set up for drifting. The fact that it is easier to drift now is just a side effect of the current suspension setup and available power.

Even Alex spins his drift S2000 on a regular basis.

 

^^what kind of setup do you have?

 

LOL, that reminds me of the day I took delivery of my RZ-350. I was use to liter bikes, and the thing felt more like a bicycle than a motorcycle. I left the dealership with my wife following, and made it almost two full blocks before almost busting my asp. First red light, I grab the front brake, meaning to apply them lightly, but I grabbed too hard and completely locked the front tire. The bars flipped all the way to the right, against the steering stop, before I even knew I'd screwed up. I still can't believe it, but I kept the front tire sliding until I got the front wheel pointed in the right direction and then got off the brake, and was able to stop at the light without any real drama. I pulled over into a parking lot, signaled my wife to pull up beside me, and (in total disbelief) asked her, "Did you see THAT!!!!??"

I still can't believe the bike didn't flop over on me.

 

I don't want to go into the specifics of my setup, because there are people here who will want to argue and I don't care to go there. I'll just say that as long as you're running OEM tires, you can do a great deal of tuning with nothing more than alignment. UK specs help, but if the back end is still unstable when sliding (drifting) then all you need to do is dial in more negative camber in the back. When my motor was stock (except for an AEM V1) I ran UK specs plus a negative 2.5-degrees of camber at the back. Tires wear faster, but the instability when sliding is reduced, and transitions aren't nearly as difficult to handle. With the SC/AC, the extra weight up front and extra power are what really makes the car easier to drift. I've backed the rear camber back to the UK specs (-2-degrees) and the stability when sliding is STILL improved.

My car is also lowered, so there are roll and bump steer issues, plus I still have too much rear roll stiffness and my rear roll center is too high, so don't get the idea that I'm selling my setup as some kind of ideal. It's far from it, but the car is still a hell of a lot easier to drift than when it was stock. IMO, the best way to tune the suspension is using tire temps and data logging.

 

Didn't know alignment went THAT far. kool

 

wow lol

 

[QUOTE=bAtsu,Feb 16 2006, 04:27 PM]Didn't know alignment went THAT far. kool