S2000 Talk Discussions related to the S2000, its ownership and enthusiasm for it.

Original vs Replica

Thread Tools
 
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 08:29 PM
  #31  
RedY2KS2k's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,296
Likes: 2
From: Delaware, OH
Default

Do you guys talk about "replica Rolexes" ? Come on, a knockoff is a knockoff. Why not call it one.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:59 PM
  #32  
Bob Loblaw's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
From: Irvine, CA
Default

Originally Posted by RedY2KS2k,Aug 27 2010, 08:29 PM
Do you guys talk about "replica Rolexes" ? Come on, a knockoff is a knockoff. Why not call it one.
Stay on topic. This discussion is about automobiles, not apparel and accessories.

What do you call a Shelby Cobra kit car?
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 08:52 AM
  #33  
suzuka-blue-s2k's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,783
Likes: 3
From: Liberal Kansas
Default

There are quite a few replica's out there that fit just as good as authentic, or hold up just as well. I have a cheapo ebay lip on my ap1, fits pretty good, and some people think its the real deal. I would never pay $300 for a lip that will probably get cracked or something, when mine looks just as good and is made of urethane. I just bought a replica ASM front bumper, out of the box it fits like poo, but im going to get to trimming this weekend and get it fit right. By no means am I going to be saying its an authentic asm front, just look in my sig, it says ASM rep. I just want a nice looking front bumper that fits decent, and for the price of this, its well worth it.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 09:09 AM
  #34  
///RS-2000's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,152
Likes: 0
From: SoCal/GripWerks
Default

I'm on the fence on this one. Granted I haven't modded my car I have ridden and driven cars with "knock off" wheels and suspension and they rode and felt normal if not great. Some of the benefits of authentic parts is weight and fitment. While replica, knock offs or fakes are cheaper and can be bought easily rather than waiting months. It's a trade off and if you are comfortable with your choice. It doesn't matter to me what people do to their cars. It's their cars. I would personally do my research and see the pros and cons of replica vs authentic and make a decision based on that.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 04:24 PM
  #35  
rnye's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,852
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Default

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw,Aug 27 2010, 11:59 PM
Stay on topic. This discussion is about automobiles, not apparel and accessories.

What do you call a Shelby Cobra kit car?
Hardly equatable.

The Shelby Cobra is extremely rare and extremely expensive. So is a Porsche 550.

Its ok to offer recreations of these unattainable classics because they've been out of production of for over four decades.

Buying a $500 "Shine" Amuse knock off because you can't afford a still-in-production and readily available Amuse R1 (What, $1200?) is not the same.

Just like a Murcielago "Replica" - ITS LAME and its POSING.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 04:25 PM
  #36  
rmc22's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Mike21,Aug 26 2010, 08:46 AM
I'm kind of on the fence on this one. Some replicas I'm okay with. Like interior, wheels, and body pieces where no r&d was done. In those instances, you're paying for quality. But engine parts and suspensions are a completely different story. Replicating a part like a header, where hours upon hours of testing and research were done to come out with the best product, is just wrong. Stealing someone's design to a tee then selling it for less than half of the original, is what I have a problem with.
I think the post I quoted is on the right track in terms of how people try to explain their preference, but it contradicted itself.

For the record, there is a tremendous amount of R&D in interior, wheels, and body parts. I guarantee more R&D goes into these areas. Why? At the end of the day these play a vital role in occupant safety. Header? No real secrets here and no magic formulas. Suspension? As far as shocks go, most small companies will just rebrand a Koni.

A major part of the purchase of an authentic item is the reliability and support of the company. These are Six Sigma and QS9000 companies; the big dogs. These companies have built their reputation on their product quality and stand behind it. They supply to the OEM market, pass governmental and regulatory testing, and still find ways to continuously improve.

All you guys getting fired up over the "replicas are for poor people" comment, it's the truth. Don't take it so personally. He didn't say you were literally impoverished. If money was no object, would you even think twice about not buying the original?

At the end of the day it's your personal choice as to how you allocate your resources. The replicas help push the envelope for the next authentic product. Personally, I would never buy the knock-off. But there are a lot of things I wouldn't do that seem pretty popular around here lately.



CLIFFS: I'm willing to bet your knock-off was a significant downgrade from stock. Most of that **** is just junk. And Honda engineers > random knock-off production company.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 06:23 PM
  #37  
Bob Loblaw's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
From: Irvine, CA
Default

Originally Posted by rnye,Aug 28 2010, 04:24 PM
Hardly equatable.

The Shelby Cobra is extremely rare and extremely expensive. So is a Porsche 550.

Its ok to offer recreations of these unattainable classics because they've been out of production of for over four decades.

Buying a $500 "Shine" Amuse knock off because you can't afford a still-in-production and readily available Amuse R1 (What, $1200?) is not the same.

Just like a Murcielago "Replica" - ITS LAME and its POSING.


My point was that replica is the standard term in use for automobiles and that is how I decided to make my point.

Even if fake, phony, bogus, fraudulent, knockoff, and replica mean the same thing.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 06:27 PM
  #38  
common reactor's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,683
Likes: 2
From: Northern NJ
Default

99% of the public will have no idea (nor will they care) if your parts are replica or not. IMO as long as they look good and fit with the car, replica parts are okay.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 07:25 PM
  #39  
blkwidow's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
From: Paradise Hills / SD
Default

So do we really need to debate this topic again, and again and again and again?
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 08:15 PM
  #40  
rmc22's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
Default

Keep on fakin' the funk guys. Someone has to match up with the woman that buys fake purses and accessories to boost her perceived social status.

I'll make sure the door doesn't hit me in the ass on my way out of this thread.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:11 AM.