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Possible fix for for the auto-rolldown problem

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by minako
I'm a little confused... What exactly is the problem that is being fixed with this thread? Is it with the auto roll-down of the driver's side window? Or the auto roll-down of the soft top? Or... I don't know, I'm really confused here.
With my car (2001), the drivers side window wouldn't go down with the top AND the auto down button wouldn't work. I had the relay replaced at the dealership (so they say) but the problem came back after about 2 weeks. I tried the reset trick a couple of days ago and it's worked fine so far.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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I'll have to give this a shot. Mine just quit working last week. And like the rest of u I really hate to take it to a dealer.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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Glad this solution worked for some. For me, it worked until I shut the engine off and then it goes back to failing. I've gone through this cycle 5 times so far.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Looks like it doesnt really work for me afterall. The reset DOES work every time I do it. Once I shut the car off... next time I start it up, the auto down doesnt work again...
Same here...

It's strange. Since I reset it a couple days ago, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.

I still plan on taking it to the dealership.
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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Well, I tried the solution provided and the auto-down when I hit the windows button works, but not when I lower the top. This is probably why when someone complains that the window doesn't go don that Honda just replaces the regulator. While some people may just need to have to reset the system because the regulator is fine, in my case, it is not. It is weird that the auto-down with the window button is different then for the top. I would have thought they would be been setup the same, but apparently not.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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In the official Shop Manual their is a troubleshooting chart for "Driver's window does not work in AUTO". Step 1 is to reset the detect circuit. Step 2 inspect/test the control unit input, step 3 inspect/test the motor.

The official procedure for reseting the circuit is similar to the way described above.

Before starting, turn ignition off, remove the drivers window fuse (No17). Turn the ignition on (II) for 1 second and turn off. Refit fuse 5 seconds after turning off the ignition. Check to make sure that AUTO does not work.

Turn ignition on (II), start the engine. Move the window all the way down by using the driver's switch of the master switch by manual down.

With the drivers door open, move the window all the way up by using the driver's switch of the master switch by manual up for more than one second.

This procedure is likely to be required if the battery power is shutdown, the fuses (17 and 8) or if the connector to the power window master switch is disconnected.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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The number of reports that this does not fix the problem supports my suggestion that maybe the activity of cycling the window makes the problem temporarily go away, not the "reset".

The pulsing sensor contact oxidation is cleaned by the motion, and will only start to malfunction by sitting idle for a period of time to build up oxidation again.

I believe the reason the auto-up windows requires reset is because of the position/sensitivity setting for closing safety circuit. I never heard of needing to reset an auto-down only window.

Typically an auto-down window simply senses a change in motor load or the termination of rotation (at a pulsing sensor). These types of devices do not require resetting.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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The problem came back today At least I know how to fix it... it only takes a minute. I'm probably going to have them fix it again when I go for my alignment.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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Over the last 2 years, I've noticed that the auto down is more likely to work in hot weather.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Just the opposite for me, it just started when it was getting warm. Auto down using the button works but not the top; before I did the reset procedure neither way worked.
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