question for some 4.77 owners
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wtf?? lol
from a dead stop.....which gears do u think would most likely win in a drag race.......
hypothetically speaking.....if everything else was completely the same.....tire spin....perfect shifts...everything
which gears do u think would be the fast from a 0-90 mph run
from a dead stop.....which gears do u think would most likely win in a drag race.......
hypothetically speaking.....if everything else was completely the same.....tire spin....perfect shifts...everything
which gears do u think would be the fast from a 0-90 mph run
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Oct 31 2007, 08:48 AM
I drive at 90 sometimes and do care about maximum acceleration from 0-60 and quarter mile so yeah there is for me, they don't accelerate your car as fast as the lower ratios such as the 4.30's - 4.44's. They do provide you with accelerating your engine faster though and giving you more bottom end respons on intial throttle aplication. People get so confused it seems and can't make this distuishment.
Get them with the understanding that they are for fun and limited small track aplications, but realize that they arent nescisarely going to propell your car the fastest in a strait line. The s2000 handles awesome, It needs a little more balance in the strait line performamce so I have modded mine accordingly with this in mind along with bolt on's.
I should also mention that as your power goes up the more the higher gear ratio's are a draw back for maximum acceleration. Stock for stock the difforence in gearing is smaller but still apperent. Have fun with the 4.77's but understand the distiushment between your bennifit of added tq multiplication and all out acceleration of the lower gears. Realize that in a drag race your rpms never dip below Vtec so top end performace is where your at. As soon as you shift out of first gear your at a disatvantage with the 4.77's. With this in mind, You only need enough gear reduction to get your rpms to fall withen an optimum range of the s2000 power band. To much multiplication and you will lose car acceleration but be able to pull a trailer. Not enough and your cars power band will be streached to thin and your engine will bog. 4.44's are right at the sweat spot baby! Ok get it?
I recommend to anyone to try my tire mod sice it is free, assuming you need a replacement, before investing in the wrong gear set. Do some dragging with them and get an understanding how your car responds to the changes before jumping right into an extreme. I understand the idea of getting the most for your money but more gear isn't always the better choice so take some time to do your own resurch and play around with the diforent sets if you can so you will have first hand experiance before your investment. thats all I can say about it. Good luck!
Get them with the understanding that they are for fun and limited small track aplications, but realize that they arent nescisarely going to propell your car the fastest in a strait line. The s2000 handles awesome, It needs a little more balance in the strait line performamce so I have modded mine accordingly with this in mind along with bolt on's.
I should also mention that as your power goes up the more the higher gear ratio's are a draw back for maximum acceleration. Stock for stock the difforence in gearing is smaller but still apperent. Have fun with the 4.77's but understand the distiushment between your bennifit of added tq multiplication and all out acceleration of the lower gears. Realize that in a drag race your rpms never dip below Vtec so top end performace is where your at. As soon as you shift out of first gear your at a disatvantage with the 4.77's. With this in mind, You only need enough gear reduction to get your rpms to fall withen an optimum range of the s2000 power band. To much multiplication and you will lose car acceleration but be able to pull a trailer. Not enough and your cars power band will be streached to thin and your engine will bog. 4.44's are right at the sweat spot baby! Ok get it?
I recommend to anyone to try my tire mod sice it is free, assuming you need a replacement, before investing in the wrong gear set. Do some dragging with them and get an understanding how your car responds to the changes before jumping right into an extreme. I understand the idea of getting the most for your money but more gear isn't always the better choice so take some time to do your own resurch and play around with the diforent sets if you can so you will have first hand experiance before your investment. thats all I can say about it. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by leftyz,Oct 31 2007, 10:29 AM
s2000junky, Can i ask you what rear tire size to mimic the 4.3 gear ? very easy to do and get the same benefits as the gear change. i will try it this weekend.
If you want to stick to a closer width but still get some gearing atvatage you can go with the 225/45/16 for a ratio of 4.26. Hankook rs2 makes these and are sticky like the Azenis but not as stiff in the side wall. You will be reducing your side wall profile so this will also over come this flex over the stock s02's. The Azenis are stiffer then both the Hankook and Potenza so2's. There could be another brand or two floating around that would fit these sizes but I have spent alot of time resurching this and have found the Azenis and hakooks to be the best choice for cost and performance. I don't think you will find a better choice out there for my tire mod.
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It should also be noted that the performance of 4.77 gears would be different between an ap1 and a ap2.
From what I understand the 4.77's are better suited for an ap1. The ap2 has shorter gears to begin with so the 4.77's are an overkill.
I might be wrong but I thought it should be mentioned.
Jim
From what I understand the 4.77's are better suited for an ap1. The ap2 has shorter gears to begin with so the 4.77's are an overkill.
I might be wrong but I thought it should be mentioned.
Jim
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Originally Posted by jimbrowski00,Oct 31 2007, 12:53 PM
It should also be noted that the performance of 4.77 gears would be different between an ap1 and a ap2.
From what I understand the 4.77's are better suited for an ap1. The ap2 has shorter gears to begin with so the 4.77's are an overkill.
I might be wrong but I thought it should be mentioned.
Jim
From what I understand the 4.77's are better suited for an ap1. The ap2 has shorter gears to begin with so the 4.77's are an overkill.
I might be wrong but I thought it should be mentioned.
Jim
Playing with rear tire sizes would work perfectly for an Ap2, however I have not resurched available smaller sizes that adapt to a 17 wheel. There may not be any but its worth you Ap2 owners to do a little resurch on this and find out.
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Originally Posted by nightcrawler7188,Oct 31 2007, 08:17 AM
i wouldn't agree with this. i have a traffic-filled morning commute and i found that starting in 2nd works fine. with the 4.77 starting in 2nd feels ALMOST like starting in 1st with the 4.1, and you have more pulling power than you'd need in traffic.
2nd works fine @ anything over 5mph - feels almost like first gear stock.
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Originally Posted by millertown15,Oct 31 2007, 06:48 PM
What rpms are you turning while going 70 mph with the 4.77's?