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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crazylarry85,Nov 1 2007, 11:36 AM
WoW you are one intelligent cookie....I tip my hat to you sir

I started a thread just like this and had NO post..but 90 views LOL

I have 220.3 and i was debating the 4.77, but I continue to read that its best advantage is 0-30.


Its so hard. So I guess I should just get 4.44 ?

I just wanna be quick...NOT fast but quick
Yes well thanks for the kind word, my spelling sucks however

Nice bolt on gains

Yes if your talking about racing from a dig the 4.77 gets the jump until his first shift. which is approxametly 30. This is asuming good traction with a good take off technique.

You can't go wrong with the 4.44's if your looking to exude the maximum overall potentail from your car. It is a tuff choice given the available infomation that is floating around. I would say to anyone to know what your goal is and then pick apart the spicific things that are being descibed about each gear or any mod for that matter which would co inside with that, rather then taking the overwelming opnions floating around and trying to apply them as a trial and error method.

I have my opnions of course too but I try and differentiate them from the facts so people have an easer time making that distinction as well. Don't know about you but some of these mods are expesive and I can't afford to do the trial and error performance method. It takes time resurching, but it will pay off for you if you put in the energy
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KSandy,Nov 1 2007, 12:23 PM
SMart cookie indeed!!!!!

So your saying, get the 4.44's because after 30, its gonna catch up and surpass?

So i'm guessing that These are alot faster than stock 4.10's correct? so just racing another stock AP2 i should pulll pretty good and just keep pulling?

SO MUCH INFO! I LOVE IT!
Exactly! but were not talking about 5 cars in a quarter mile here, it is just gears, so realize that to make the most of the gearing mod you should also want to upgrade your power ouput as well. With the right gearing such as a 4.44 the added power you make will work exponetially towards creating a fantasticly quick, well balanced s2000 over the other higher gear sets.

How can I better relate......the higher sets as you make more power lose their atvantage, they eat up your power gains. For example and an extreme -- its like throwing a typicle 500hp semi truck with no trailer another 100hp, its still gear limited and will show vertually no increase in acceleration time over a given area like the quarter mile. Pick the right gearing for your power and you will have the most efficiant accelerator!
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Nov 1 2007, 12:57 PM
Exactly! but were not talking about 5 cars in a quarter mile here, it is just gears, so realize that to make the most of the gearing mod you should also want to upgrade your power ouput as well. With the right gearing such as a 4.44 the added power you make will work exponetially towards creating a fantasticly quick, well balanced s2000 over the other higher gear sets.

How can I better relate......the higher sets as you make more power lose their atvantage, they eat up your power gains. For example and an extreme -- its like throwing a typicle 500hp semi truck with no trailer another 100hp, its still gear limited and will show vertually no increase in acceleration time over a given area like the quarter mile. Pick the right gearing for your power and you will have the most efficiant accelerator!
Damn this MO FO is A G'

4.44 ALL the way ...or 4.33

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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damn i just bought 4.77s and yellow box for my ap2.. i am only concerened with drag racing nothing else. from reading this it looks like i made the wrong choice and should not install them.

what gear ratio would be the best for stricktly drag racing a bolt on 235whp car???
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 06gpws2k,Nov 1 2007, 01:20 PM
damn i just bought 4.77s and yellow box for my ap2.. i am only concerened with drag racing nothing else. from reading this it looks like i made the wrong choice and should not install them.

what gear ratio would be the best for stricktly drag racing a bolt on 235whp car???
Sorry to hear that, I know the answer. But seems to me that for a quarter mile drag race you want the gear choice that alows the least amount of shifting that will also maximize the power your making to the ground right? Which in your case is 235hp which is fantastic. Pm me and let me know what your list is because i'm very interested The other factor to maximize your time and speed going through the finish is picking a gear that will get you to peak hp right at the end.

Did you know that the 4.44 get you to a perfect 60mph with one shift and will get you to almost a perfect rpm for maximum pull at the finish line over any other gear available? This is just the shifting reasons not to mention the other points I described about how gearing affects performance.

Higher gears are a band aid for low power, you are not FI power but you are most definetly in the power range to see better results from lower gearing then the maximum band aid available.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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So basically your saying, if i wanna go Turbo, which i plan on doing, then go with the 4.44's? and even if i'm not going FI. Still get the 4.44's?

Where can i buy these 4.44's? and how much?

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Everything you say pretty much states " 4.44 is the best and nothing else can compare to it." But your pretty wrong. 4.44's won't get you to 60 in one shift. HELL stock gears on an AP2 won't make it to 60 in one shift. Stock AP2 redlines 2nd gear at 57 mph which requires another shift anyway. Also, an Ap2 will need to shift to 5th gear STOCK to get passed the quartermile. 4.77's will require the shift to 5th gear also. So in a quartermile race 4.44's vs 4.77's, can you explain to me why the 4.44 would win?
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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^^that's a tight pussy you have there
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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[QUOTE=JLEEzAP2,Nov 1 2007, 05:38 PM] Everything you say pretty much states " 4.44 is the best and nothing else can compare to it."
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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guys, not that im saying the s2000junky doesnt know his stuff but you shouldnt really make a decision on what one person says.... do the research yourself from different threads. i still fail to see s2000junkys point

if you guys look at this thread https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=522272 then you will see that in the 1/4 graph with the ap1 stock vs ap1 geared, that the 4.77's came out on top...

0-60 the 4.77 loses because you have to shift again but who really cares? who stops racing right at 60, if you were to race 0-65 or 0-70 the 4.77's will win.

but i see no evidence or logic as to why the 4.77's will actually be a disadvantage after 30.... the 4.77's will be a disadvantage at 90mph and up. those graphs prove the 4.77's pull harder in each gear and stay ahead through the whole 1/4 time and race to top speed.
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