s2000 as a daily driver and the competition
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This thread is so full of fanboi fail. =)
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
-The seats lack lumbar support, making any amount of prolonged travel a back wrenching experience. Top that off with the stiffer suspension especially on the AP1.......my back and a$$ ache just thinking about it.
-Above average tire wear, and tire cost. I ended up putting cheaper, better tread rate tires on my AP2, and it killed the driving experience.
-Driving in less than great weather can be dicey even when you are on your best behavior
-You call that a cup holder?
-No Trunk
-Horrible Audio System
-Noise, aside from the road noise, everything rattles in these cars.
-No Torque! Better in the AP2, but still lacking.
I'd still DD my s2k thought
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
-The seats lack lumbar support, making any amount of prolonged travel a back wrenching experience. Top that off with the stiffer suspension especially on the AP1.......my back and a$$ ache just thinking about it.
-Above average tire wear, and tire cost. I ended up putting cheaper, better tread rate tires on my AP2, and it killed the driving experience.
-Driving in less than great weather can be dicey even when you are on your best behavior
-You call that a cup holder?
-No Trunk
-Horrible Audio System
-Noise, aside from the road noise, everything rattles in these cars.
-No Torque! Better in the AP2, but still lacking.
I'd still DD my s2k thought
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From: Benicia, CA
Originally Posted by CypherAZ,May 22 2010, 12:30 PM
This thread is so full of fanboi fail. =)
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
-The seats lack lumbar support, making any amount of prolonged travel a back wrenching experience. Top that off with the stiffer suspension especially on the AP1.......my back and a$$ ache just thinking about it.
-Above average tire wear, and tire cost. I ended up putting cheaper, better tread rate tires on my AP2, and it killed the driving experience.
-Driving in less than great weather can be dicey even when you are on your best behavior
-You call that a cup holder?
-No Trunk
-Horrible Audio System
-Noise, aside from the road noise, everything rattles in these cars.
-No Torque! Better in the AP2, but still lacking.
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
-The seats lack lumbar support, making any amount of prolonged travel a back wrenching experience. Top that off with the stiffer suspension especially on the AP1.......my back and a$$ ache just thinking about it.
-Above average tire wear, and tire cost. I ended up putting cheaper, better tread rate tires on my AP2, and it killed the driving experience.
-Driving in less than great weather can be dicey even when you are on your best behavior
-You call that a cup holder?
-No Trunk
-Horrible Audio System
-Noise, aside from the road noise, everything rattles in these cars.
-No Torque! Better in the AP2, but still lacking.
Fact: I've made a 4 hour drive, stopping once to piss and had ZERO backache. This is with my skunk2 springs which are severly stiffer than your ap1.
Fact: Sumitomo HRTZ III's rated higher than Potenza RE050 and they're less than 100$ on tire rack. Do you go through rears faster than a civic? Yes, but that's to be given in a RWD sports car.
Fact: I've driven through multiple STORMS (as in raining so hard I can barely see 20 ft ahead of me), and had ZERO control issues.
Fact: I don't use a cup holder on my commute. In the event that I need something to drink, that's what they make bottles for.
Fact: I don't have any rattles in my car, aside from occasionally my pioneer deck or loose change in the center console.
Your list is opinion, and just as subjective as the rest of us. Get off your high horse.
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The S2000 is comfortable. You will definitely find yourself in better shape after a long drive in the S compared to a long drive in a regular mid-size sedan. Best of all you will enjoy the drive and no longer treat it as a commute. The moments that I'm driving my cars are a nice relaxing stress free experience for me. Sometimes I wish I had a longer drive to work
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Originally Posted by whiteflash,May 22 2010, 12:37 PM
Fanboi'ism? Are you being serious right now? So your opinion is fact, and ours is completely void?
Fact: I've made a 4 hour drive, stopping once to piss and had ZERO backache. This is with my skunk2 springs which are severly stiffer than your ap1.
Fact: Sumitomo HRTZ III's rated higher than Potenza RE050 and they're less than 100$ on tire rack. Do you go through rears faster than a civic? Yes, but that's to be given in a RWD sports car.
Fact: I've driven through multiple STORMS (as in raining so hard I can barely see 20 ft ahead of me), and had ZERO control issues.
Fact: I don't use a cup holder on my commute. In the event that I need something to drink, that's what they make bottles for.
Fact: I don't have any rattles in my car, aside from occasionally my pioneer deck or loose change in the center console.
Your list is opinion, and just as subjective as the rest of us. Get off your high horse.
Fact: I've made a 4 hour drive, stopping once to piss and had ZERO backache. This is with my skunk2 springs which are severly stiffer than your ap1.
Fact: Sumitomo HRTZ III's rated higher than Potenza RE050 and they're less than 100$ on tire rack. Do you go through rears faster than a civic? Yes, but that's to be given in a RWD sports car.
Fact: I've driven through multiple STORMS (as in raining so hard I can barely see 20 ft ahead of me), and had ZERO control issues.
Fact: I don't use a cup holder on my commute. In the event that I need something to drink, that's what they make bottles for.
Fact: I don't have any rattles in my car, aside from occasionally my pioneer deck or loose change in the center console.
Your list is opinion, and just as subjective as the rest of us. Get off your high horse.
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Originally Posted by MST Engineer,May 21 2010, 08:35 PM
After test driving the car I am unsure about being able to daily drive for a 30min commute even with lower seat rails.
My advice to you: Go back to the dealer and spend time adjusting the seat. If you have poor seating position habits, the S will help fix some of those. Find a compromise between street comfort and proper positioning. TurnFast! Seating Position Reference
After that, you will know with confidence whether you will be comfortable.
And as mentioned above, the cup holders are garbage and poorly positioned relative to the shifter unless you only carry Fiji water bottles.
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[QUOTE=CypherAZ,May 22 2010, 12:30 PM]This thread is so full of fanboi fail. =)
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
-The seats lack lumbar support, making any amount of prolonged travel a back wrenching experience. Top that off with the stiffer suspension especially on the AP1.......my back and a$$ ache just thinking about it.
-Above average tire wear, and tire cost. I ended up putting cheaper, better tread rate tires on my AP2, and it killed the driving experience.
-Driving in less than great weather can be dicey even when you are on your best behavior
-You call that a cup holder?
-No Trunk
-Horrible Audio System
-Noise, aside from the road noise, everything rattles in these cars.
-No Torque! Better in the AP2, but still lacking.
I'd still DD my s2k thought
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
-The seats lack lumbar support, making any amount of prolonged travel a back wrenching experience. Top that off with the stiffer suspension especially on the AP1.......my back and a$$ ache just thinking about it.
-Above average tire wear, and tire cost. I ended up putting cheaper, better tread rate tires on my AP2, and it killed the driving experience.
-Driving in less than great weather can be dicey even when you are on your best behavior
-You call that a cup holder?
-No Trunk
-Horrible Audio System
-Noise, aside from the road noise, everything rattles in these cars.
-No Torque! Better in the AP2, but still lacking.
I'd still DD my s2k thought
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From: Benicia, CA
Originally Posted by CypherAZ,May 22 2010, 12:49 PM
HAHA clam down Billy. I never said my opinions were better than everyone else. I was simply giving my opinion. If you don't like it guess what? I really don't care. No need to get all butt hurt.
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Originally Posted by CypherAZ,May 22 2010, 12:30 PM
This thread is so full of fanboi fail. =)
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
The s2k is a terrible daily drive, and I did it for almost 5 years, both AP1/AP2.
You can leave your comment but no need to pickin on other member's posts.
Btw yes, I call that is cup holder.