S2000, TT, Boxster, Miata...
Originally posted by GID
Is the electronic dash hard to get used to.....
Is the electronic dash hard to get used to.....
Your signature BTW 'One Flew Over.............' ???
The S2000 has been called an "extra virgin" sports car. No additives, no preservatives. That's exactly what it is. You're not getting tons of gadgets and leather everywhere inside, you're getting one of the best engineered machines to ever hit the streets. No other car in its class compares. If you want performance, handling, and good looks for a roadster, the S2000 should be one of your top choices.
The dash was actually one of the things that I liked about the car. I like a company who is willing to make changes and take risks.
The dash was actually one of the things that I liked about the car. I like a company who is willing to make changes and take risks.
And that is why I like each car.
Miata = Lower cost, good styling 02', nice options, layout - lacks power, tight fit, crappy stereo
TT = good styling, exclusive - needs more oomph (225Q is too much $$)
Z3 = good name, styling, options - too many on the road, cost and too much $$ for M
S2000 = good styling, options are all I need - never driven so I dont know about performance
Boxster = too much for the S
I think I need to spend some time in a S2000
Also, a glass back window is very important. The 02 has one, finally.
Miata = Lower cost, good styling 02', nice options, layout - lacks power, tight fit, crappy stereo
TT = good styling, exclusive - needs more oomph (225Q is too much $$)
Z3 = good name, styling, options - too many on the road, cost and too much $$ for M
S2000 = good styling, options are all I need - never driven so I dont know about performance
Boxster = too much for the S
I think I need to spend some time in a S2000
Also, a glass back window is very important. The 02 has one, finally.
If the dash becomes the last thing standing in your way of getting the S2k (I can't think of anything else you would not like about this car
), Spoon Sports from Japan does make a dash with traditional tach (up to 10K rev or more ...) and the digital speed display.
), Spoon Sports from Japan does make a dash with traditional tach (up to 10K rev or more ...) and the digital speed display.
I could come up with a good list of reasons I would recommend an S2000 to anyone, but only one really matters. Everytime I drive mine i do this
... it's too bad Honda can't list that as a standard feaure.
... it's too bad Honda can't list that as a standard feaure.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GID
[B]And that is why I like each car.
Miata = Lower cost, good styling 02', nice options, layout - lacks power, tight fit, crappy stereo
TT = good styling, exclusive - needs more oomph (225Q is too much $$)
Z3 = good name, styling, options - too many on the road, cost and too much $$ for M
S2000 = good styling, options are all I need - never driven so I dont know about performance
Boxster = too much for the S
I think I need to spend some time in a S2000
[B]And that is why I like each car.
Miata = Lower cost, good styling 02', nice options, layout - lacks power, tight fit, crappy stereo
TT = good styling, exclusive - needs more oomph (225Q is too much $$)
Z3 = good name, styling, options - too many on the road, cost and too much $$ for M
S2000 = good styling, options are all I need - never driven so I dont know about performance
Boxster = too much for the S
I think I need to spend some time in a S2000
GID - 2 years ago I was roadster shopping just like you, My test drives quickly eliminated the Miata (didn't fit) and Z3 2.8 (didn't have the kind of road feel that I was looking for). It came down to the Boxster 2.7 or S2000. After driving both, the S2000 won out based both on performance and value. I appreciated classical functionality as well and was concerned about the digital dash. It has turned out to be very functional and I like it a lot now, so don't let that stop you.
The Boxster 2.7 is more civilized and has more room for passengers and luggage. If you can spend the bucks, you should consider a Boxster S for a slight edge in performance, but it comes at a substantial premium (about $20-25k more than the S2000).
The S2000 is a more elemental roadster that is a blast to drive.
Drive them all and you decide.
The Boxster 2.7 is more civilized and has more room for passengers and luggage. If you can spend the bucks, you should consider a Boxster S for a slight edge in performance, but it comes at a substantial premium (about $20-25k more than the S2000).
The S2000 is a more elemental roadster that is a blast to drive.
Drive them all and you decide.
This is reprinted from the Thread I started called "The S Stands For Special"
Yes I know it stands for Sport but it really could stand for special also. I also know most of you old timers know what makes it special but for some of the
newer members and for those who may be sitting on the fence about purchasing one I thought I might recap some of what makes the S2000 such a very
special automobile.
HERITAGE:
Honda has been in business over 50 years (as has Porsche and Ferrari) and most of those years were spent competing at the very highest levels in
motorsports, first with motorcycles, then with automobiles. Also like Ferrari and Porsche racing is in their DNA. Mr Honda himself was a racer and a fanatic about
building engines. He named the company "The Honda MOTOR Company" after all. Almost to the day he died he would don a white lab coat and be found in
the HONDA R&D building tinkering with the new engine technologies and mixing with his young engineers. He made it a policy to send his young promising
engineers to the different racing programs HONDA was involved in. He believed in proving the superiority of his products on the world stage of international
competition. He believed that racing improved his products and more importantly, his young engineers. To this day The CEOs of Honda are all promoted from
the ranks of engineers, not bean counters. HONDA has amassed an unbelievable amount of race wins and championships in all types of racing. There is even
a saying about HONDA; "HONDA enters,...HONDA Wins". Many people believe (and I am one of them) that HONDA builds the best engines in the world. HONDA
is the largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines in the world.
THE S2000 Overall
Designed as the car to commemorate HONDA's 50th anniversary.
Derived from the SSM (Sports Study Model) Prototype show car.
Designed by the same engineers who designed the Championship winning (6 times in 9 years) F1 engines for such greats as Prost, Piquet, and Senna.
Designed by the same engineers who designed the Accura NSX
Hand assembled in the same factory (HONDA's Premier Tochigi Plant) as the NSX.
Limited Production.
Only Front Engined Rear Wheel drive Honda Roadster available since the S800.
Has been on Car & Drivers 10 best list for ALL THREE model years.
Named to Road & Track's Best both model years
The Engine has been named by Wards as one of the 10 best both years of production.
Has a perfect reliability score in Consumer Reports as well as rated as a best buy and named most fun to drive.
Is consistently compared to cars that cost upwards of $20,000 more and beats them.
The Car
SUPER rigid high center backbone X Frame design. Derived from a Colin Chapman design (Lotus). Is as rigid as many coupes. This allows a stiffer more highly
tuned suspension without the worry of chassis flex.
Four wheel double wishbone suspension which is derived from the NSX design.
Showa gas Shocks with the rears having a remote resevoir.
Four wheel disc brakes with ABS.
Special design Brigestone S02 tires.
Electric boosted power steering.
Integrated roll bars both behind the passenger compartment and in the windshield frame.
Excellent crash worthiness.
Recaro Seats.
Alloy pedals perfectly placed for Heel/Toe shifting
50-50 weight distribution. The S2000 is really a mid engine design with the engine mounted in front of the driver but behind the front axle.
Dual airbags.
High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlights.
Big Red Starter Button!
All controls within fingertip reach of the Steering Wheel.
A minimalist design geared towards giving the driver the closest thing to experiencing a Formula type single seat race car for the street.
The Engine and Running Gear
The highest specific HP per liter, naturally aspirated production piston automobile engine in the world. 120HP/liter.
The highest revving production piston engine (car) in the world. 9000RPMs
Quite possibly the best engine size & weight per HP ratio of any naturally aspirated piston production engine.
With all this performance it is still rated as an LEV
VTEC on both intake and exhaust.
Forged pistons
Forged Rods
Forged crank
Hollow Cams (for lightness and oil flow to the valve springs)
Valve springs and main bearing material derived from the championship winning CART Engines.
Roller valve train
carbon fiber/metalic ceramic cylinder liners.
Chain/gear driven cams
Split cam gears for zero backlash and low noise
Hand welded and formed stainless headers
Nutless rod design
Girdled main bearing carrier with cast iron inserts.
Tapered wristpins for light weight
No ballance shafts
Individual Coils for each cylinder
Die cast aluminum block
Die cast finned aluminum oil pan
Die cast finned aluminum Transmission case
Die cast finned aluminum differential housing
Torsen (torque sensing) LSD
Pressure fed oil circulation in transmission
Just about the best shifting 6 speed ever made.
Ferrari-like RED Valve Cover.
HONDA RELIABILITY AND BUILD QUALITY
Performance
0-60 in under 6 seconds
1/4 Mile in under 14 seconds
60-0 in under 115 feet
Slalom at over 70 MPH
Skid Pad over .9 G
Well that is just some of what makes the S stand for Special. I am sure many here will add to this list. For those who don't own one yet let me just say that all
of the above adds up to the most engaging automobile I have ever driven. This is a true "Driver's Car" and it is indeed very, very special because of that.
Yes I know it stands for Sport but it really could stand for special also. I also know most of you old timers know what makes it special but for some of the
newer members and for those who may be sitting on the fence about purchasing one I thought I might recap some of what makes the S2000 such a very
special automobile.
HERITAGE:
Honda has been in business over 50 years (as has Porsche and Ferrari) and most of those years were spent competing at the very highest levels in
motorsports, first with motorcycles, then with automobiles. Also like Ferrari and Porsche racing is in their DNA. Mr Honda himself was a racer and a fanatic about
building engines. He named the company "The Honda MOTOR Company" after all. Almost to the day he died he would don a white lab coat and be found in
the HONDA R&D building tinkering with the new engine technologies and mixing with his young engineers. He made it a policy to send his young promising
engineers to the different racing programs HONDA was involved in. He believed in proving the superiority of his products on the world stage of international
competition. He believed that racing improved his products and more importantly, his young engineers. To this day The CEOs of Honda are all promoted from
the ranks of engineers, not bean counters. HONDA has amassed an unbelievable amount of race wins and championships in all types of racing. There is even
a saying about HONDA; "HONDA enters,...HONDA Wins". Many people believe (and I am one of them) that HONDA builds the best engines in the world. HONDA
is the largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines in the world.
THE S2000 Overall
Designed as the car to commemorate HONDA's 50th anniversary.
Derived from the SSM (Sports Study Model) Prototype show car.
Designed by the same engineers who designed the Championship winning (6 times in 9 years) F1 engines for such greats as Prost, Piquet, and Senna.
Designed by the same engineers who designed the Accura NSX
Hand assembled in the same factory (HONDA's Premier Tochigi Plant) as the NSX.
Limited Production.
Only Front Engined Rear Wheel drive Honda Roadster available since the S800.
Has been on Car & Drivers 10 best list for ALL THREE model years.
Named to Road & Track's Best both model years
The Engine has been named by Wards as one of the 10 best both years of production.
Has a perfect reliability score in Consumer Reports as well as rated as a best buy and named most fun to drive.
Is consistently compared to cars that cost upwards of $20,000 more and beats them.
The Car
SUPER rigid high center backbone X Frame design. Derived from a Colin Chapman design (Lotus). Is as rigid as many coupes. This allows a stiffer more highly
tuned suspension without the worry of chassis flex.
Four wheel double wishbone suspension which is derived from the NSX design.
Showa gas Shocks with the rears having a remote resevoir.
Four wheel disc brakes with ABS.
Special design Brigestone S02 tires.
Electric boosted power steering.
Integrated roll bars both behind the passenger compartment and in the windshield frame.
Excellent crash worthiness.
Recaro Seats.
Alloy pedals perfectly placed for Heel/Toe shifting
50-50 weight distribution. The S2000 is really a mid engine design with the engine mounted in front of the driver but behind the front axle.
Dual airbags.
High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlights.
Big Red Starter Button!
All controls within fingertip reach of the Steering Wheel.
A minimalist design geared towards giving the driver the closest thing to experiencing a Formula type single seat race car for the street.
The Engine and Running Gear
The highest specific HP per liter, naturally aspirated production piston automobile engine in the world. 120HP/liter.
The highest revving production piston engine (car) in the world. 9000RPMs
Quite possibly the best engine size & weight per HP ratio of any naturally aspirated piston production engine.
With all this performance it is still rated as an LEV
VTEC on both intake and exhaust.
Forged pistons
Forged Rods
Forged crank
Hollow Cams (for lightness and oil flow to the valve springs)
Valve springs and main bearing material derived from the championship winning CART Engines.
Roller valve train
carbon fiber/metalic ceramic cylinder liners.
Chain/gear driven cams
Split cam gears for zero backlash and low noise
Hand welded and formed stainless headers
Nutless rod design
Girdled main bearing carrier with cast iron inserts.
Tapered wristpins for light weight
No ballance shafts
Individual Coils for each cylinder
Die cast aluminum block
Die cast finned aluminum oil pan
Die cast finned aluminum Transmission case
Die cast finned aluminum differential housing
Torsen (torque sensing) LSD
Pressure fed oil circulation in transmission
Just about the best shifting 6 speed ever made.
Ferrari-like RED Valve Cover.
HONDA RELIABILITY AND BUILD QUALITY
Performance
0-60 in under 6 seconds
1/4 Mile in under 14 seconds
60-0 in under 115 feet
Slalom at over 70 MPH
Skid Pad over .9 G
Well that is just some of what makes the S stand for Special. I am sure many here will add to this list. For those who don't own one yet let me just say that all
of the above adds up to the most engaging automobile I have ever driven. This is a true "Driver's Car" and it is indeed very, very special because of that.



