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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Presto123,Mar 11 2010, 11:27 AM
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacksparrow,Mar 10 2010, 06:12 PM
Like someones said before "Took my dog to the vet to get neutered, they call it the AP2 conversion, still looks the same but the balls are gone."
I guess no balls means the dog runs faster and performs better? Cause AP2s are definitely stronger. Go figure...
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Moddiction,Mar 10 2010, 07:54 PM
Well any set of gears will tromp on an AP2 off the line and low end so $500 on top of an AP1 and will feel like it has lots more torque than an AP2 and accelerate faster from low rpm's.
Or... put those same gears in an AP2 and absolutely kill an AP1, plus get all the rest of the AP2 improvements? Not sure what your point is here.
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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buy the newest you can afford, the newer the better, don't buy in the ap1>ap2 or ap2<ap1 hype, just buy the newest you can afford.

but the 2002 is the best year, it's the fastest, sold the most number of units and has been touted by Collector Car as the one to look out for, but i'm a little biased and i might be embellishing a little.
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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I will also reiterate that both cars are slow as hell in stock/na form. Can we please stop arguing about that portion? It's like comparing a stump to a log.

That should not be the deciding factor in any way.
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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I do hear the last year the s2000 was produced was 2003, after that its the s2200 under an assumed name...

j/k, j/k

Get whichever year YOU want to get. Test drive different years and find what suits you the best.
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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[QUOTE=Saki GT,Mar 11 2010, 12:30 PM] Or... put those same gears in an AP2 and absolutely kill an AP1, plus get all the rest of the AP2 improvements?
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Moddiction,Mar 11 2010, 04:01 PM
My point is you can spend half the money get an AP1 put some 4.77 gears in it and whoop an AP2. The AP2 is nice but all the "improvements" besides 10 ft lbs of torque are to make the car softer and less raw of a car. Both are nice but the improvements were made cause people thought the AP1 was too rough and too raw of a car.
Softer springs and shocks, smaller sway bars, vsa, cdv, lower redline, heavier flywheel etc.
Posts like this really highlight how little you know about the car and vehicle dynamics in general, or how little you care to know, or that you just dismiss lots of information out of hand.
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Mar 11 2010, 03:09 PM
Posts like this really highlight how little you know about the car and vehicle dynamics in general, or how little you care to know, or that you just dismiss lots of information out of hand.
haha wow. No reason to get so offended by it lol. AP2 is nice AP1 is nice. Personally like the AP1.
Also this thread is asking for him to be told about the AP1 not why you like the AP2 better.
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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The only thing I didn't like about the AP2 was the slower steering rack.

CR solved that problem.
Also, when you're talking about "cheaper" AP1 costs... keep in mind that the residual value is a lot lower when you sell it as well.
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