WOW, a minivan with 300 hp weighing 4000 lbs or more is going to beat me. I hardly doubt that. Here are some stats on 2006 and a 2007 dodge, honda,kia, and nissan. the best is 8.0 seconds to 60. I like how fast the car is now, plenty for me, my .02




2006 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN SXT 2006 HONDA ODYSSEY EX 2006 KIA SEDONA LX 2007 NISSAN QUEST 3.5 SE
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layout Front engine, FWD Front engine, FWD Front engine, FWD Front engine, FWD
Engine type 60 V-6, iron block/alum heads 60 V-6, alum block and heads 60 V-6, alum block and heads 60 V-6, alum block and heads
Valvetrain OHV, 2 valves/cyl SOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
Displacement 230.6 cu in/3778 cc 211.8 cu in/3471 cc 230.1 cu in/3771 cc 213.5 cu in/3498 cc
Compression ratio 9.6:1 10.0:1 10.4:1 10.3:1
Power (SAE net) 205 hp @ 5200 rpm 244 hp @ 5750 rpm 244 hp @ 6000 rpm 235 hp @ 5800 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 240 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm 240 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm 253 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm 240 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
Redline 5600 rpm 6300 rpm 6500 rpm 6500 rpm
Weight to power 21.5 lb/hp 18.7 lb/hp 18.7 lb/hp 19.2 lb/hp
Transmission 4-speed automatic 5-speed automatic 5-speed automatic 5-speed automatic
Axle/final-drive ratios 3.43:1/2.37:1 4.43:1/2.63:1 3.33:1/2.43:1 2.27:1/2.31:1
Suspension, front; rear Struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar; solid axle, leaf springs Struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar Struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs Struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Steering ratio 17.8:1 16.2:1 18.0:1 17.1:1
Turns lock-to-lock 3.1 3.4 3.5 3.0
Brakes, f;r 11.1-in vented disc; 11.4-in disc, ABS 11.7-in vented disc; 12.3-in disc, ABS 11.7-in vented disc; 11.9-in disc, ABS 11.4-in vented disc; 12.1-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels 16 x 6.5 in, cast aluminum 16 x 7.0 in, cast aluminum 16 x 6.5 in, steel 19 x 6.5 in, cast aluminum
Tires 215/65R16 98T M+S, Bridgestone Turanza EL42 235/65R16 103T M+S, Michelin Energy LX4 225/70R16 102T M+S, Hankook Optimo H418 225/700R480A 100H M+S, Michelin Energy LX4 (PAX run-flat)
DIMENSIONS
WHEELBASE 119.3 in 118.1 in 118.9 in 124.0 in
TRACK, F/R 63.0 / 64.0 in 66.7 / 66.8 in 66.3 / 66.3 in 67.3 / 67.3 in
LENGTH X WIDTH X HEIGHT 200.5 x 78.6 x 68.9 in 201.0 x 77.1 x 70.0 in 202.0 x 78.1 x 69.3 in 204.1 x 77.6 x 71.9 in
TURNING CIRCLE 39.4 ft 36.7 ft 39.6 ft 40.0 ft
CURB WEIGHT 4416 lb 4573 lb 4555 lb 4503 lb
WEIGHT DIST, F/R 56 / 44% 55 / 45 % 58 / 42 % 57 / 43 %
SEATING CAPACITY 7 8 7 7
HEADROOM, F/M/R 39.6 / 39.1 / 38.3 in 39.2 / 39.6 / 38.4 in 40.9 / 39.8 / 38.3 in 40.5 / 42.8 / 37.7 in
LEGROOM, F/M/R 40.6 / 34.7 / 31.9 in 40.8 /39.6 / 41.1 in 41.7 / 40.9 / 34.0 in 41.7 / 41.3 / 42.2 in
SHOULDER ROOM, F/M/R 62.8 / 64.7 / 62.1 in 63.5 / 63.1 / 61.2 in 63.2 / 65.3 / 60.5 in 63.7 / 66.2 / 61.6 in
CARGO VOLUME
(BEHIND 1ST/2ND/3RD ROWS) 160.7 / 54.9 / 26.4 cu ft 147.4/ 91.1 / 38.4 cu ft 141.5 / 80.1 / 32.2 cu ft 143.8 / 85.4 / 32.7 cu ft
TEST DATA
ACCELERATION TO MPH
0-30 3.2 sec 2.7 sec 2.4 sec 3.0 sec
0-40 4.9 4.1 4.0 4.4
0-50 7.5 6.1 5.9 6.3
0-60 10.3 8.2 8.0 8.5
0-70 13.5 11.0 10.5 11.1
0-80 18.2 14.5 13.9 14.9
0-90 - 18.6 17.8 19.1
PASSING, 45-65 MPH 5.7 4.2 4.2 4.3
QUARTER MILE 17.5 sec @ 78.8 mph 16.3 sec @ 84.8 mph 16.1 sec @ 85.6 mph 16.5 sec @ 84.1 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 134 ft 125 ft 125 ft

 

[QUOTE=Ruprecht,Mar 20 2008, 04:45 AM] HP is the ONLY way you can stretch legally on public roads.

 

When I first got the S2000 I was always comparing it to the GTO and Z06... I wasn't happy with the lack of torque at stoplights and power on the freeway (getting the tires hopping at freeway speeds is always a rush)

However... the first time I took the S2000 through the East Canyon (between Salt Lake City and Park City, UT) I realized what this car was all about and realized that this car had about the perfect amount of power for what I was doing at that exact time. Running 40-80 mph through that canyon and keeping it in the VTEC range was one of the most amazing experiences I have ever had (car related) It felt completely different and a lot more agile and tossable than the Z and flying through the canyon with the top down was an amazing experience!

I realized what the car was really made for... Yeah, it would do better on a track or at a light, or a freeway with more power... but imho it has the perfect amount of power running through the canyons and an occasional auto-x...

 

"is anyone using that power and if so, how do they hide from the cops?"

I'm using all of my power, at least on the highways at night. You don't have to hide from the cops, most of them won't even try. I've passed a cop at 120mph who didn't even try. I know most of the cops here in town and I saw him the next week at a gas station. He said he saw me doing over 100 but since his car only does a little over 130, he wasn't going to waste his time and gas trying to chase me. I've also passed a cop at 150+ mph (wasn't really concerned about the speedo at that kind of speed) and he didn't pull out either. I'm not saying this is a good or safe idea, or condoning running from the police, but around here they would rather pull over somebody they know they can catch. Also, there are 3 drag strips I can go to any time I want and for $12, I get to use all my power.

 

[QUOTE=Jay2000,Mar 20 2008, 10:31 AM] WOW, a minivan with 300 hp weighing 4000 lbs or more is going to beat me.

 

If that is the case, that van would cut off most factory sports cars. Mustangs, 350z, boxters,audi tt's,camaro's, etc... those cars are not that much faster than ours if they even are. Life is way to short to be worried about a mini van beating me.
Maybe she thinks you are smoking hot looking and wants to cut you off to ask you out for a milf encounter.

 

I don't know what place you live to be able to pass cops at just 120mph and cops not even trying. I'm not gonna even start on how fcked up these cops gotta be to not even care. But you are welcome to try that here passing a cop like that and I'd guarantee that you'd be crying miserably for quite a long time.

 

[QUOTE=Jay2000,Mar 20 2008, 11:14 AM] If that is the case, that van would cut off most factory sports cars.

 

I don't know what people mean by cut off? I mean if a van or pickup truck wants to really cut me, I just let them. Is this some kind of a pissing contest? Sort of like, you want to cut me, I won't because I've got more ponies and you can't cut me. Doesn't seem like a clever idea to me as if you're getting a higher hp car to avoid being cut.

 

I guess it depends upon the traffic patterns you encounter in your drives and the demeanor of the drivers in your area.

My commutes have several 2 lanes going to one, and a few stop lights where 2 lanes goto one a bit after you make it through the light.

We all make it through these drives daily. We all know the lanes move together.

Folks like me, get in the lane that will not disappear in 200 yards on the stop light.

Other folks, folks that are better than me, whose time is more important than mine, will elect to 'skip' the line that has formed in the stable lane, then zoom right up on the mark for the lane that is going to vanish. I have been at the light for a minute or so, and they have just pulled up.

They can get in the queue with the rest of us, or they can pass us losers and take the front by camping on the lane that will vanish.

This, of course, slows the progression of the drivers patiently waiting in line, and will probably make at least 1 or 2 cars miss the light cycle entirely because of the delay imparted by him inserting himself in the line up front.

In the end, efficiency and quite frankly fairness is achieved by waiting in line.

If the guy is so important he needs to be at work earlier than me, then he can set his alarm 5 minutes earlier in the morning. That will work for him well.

Then their are the leering folks that just want to smack you down personally. It's not about getting to work faster, it's about showing you that you tossed money away on a sports car that they just creamed in their van or Chrysler K.

And lastly, safety and maneuverability with interstate on ramps and such. You can find the gap and take it, or you can see the gap, not have the ability to take it (lack of HP), and merge in less ideal gaps that you have to force or really slow down and increase issues on merging at speed and rear end smacks.