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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GRUNTS2K,Nov 30 2007, 09:25 PM
Well the MYs 00-mid 02 only had 2 banjo bolts. Depending on what VIN number you have in MY 02 depends if you have 2 or 4 banjo bolts. After that every model year has 4. What happens is, according to research, people I've spoken to; if you are above 100 MPH for an extended period of time you might score the cylinder walls due to not enough oil and possibly blow the motor. THe effects are greater if you are FI. This what was happening with the S2Ks in Europe that frequently travel over 100 MPH for an extended period of time on the autobahn. If any of this seems incorrect to some one with more knowledge please chime in. Solution to this problem is the banjo bolt DIY mod. I'm sure some one here can post a link.
What are you guys talking about . I ve traveled over 100mph for long periods of time and i didnt see a problem .
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Please read the beginning of my post very carefully
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Ok got it . I have an Ap1 too so sometimes i get confused
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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With the base CTSC/AC and 4.30:1 gears, plus a 1" drop (which might improve aero a little by slightly reducing the amount of air flowing under the car) an early AP1 can activate the rev limiter in sixth gear, with the top down, given a long enough stretch of flat road.

For some real excitement, try setting the rear toe to zero and running up to 140 MPH or so. The lift at the back of the car is NOTHING compared to having too little toe in the back.

IMO this car is a lot more fun on a tight mountain road or an autocross course than it is when making top speed or acceleration runs.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dmw16,Nov 30 2007, 01:11 PM
where are you guys finding cop free roads that you can do this in a safely?
For me it's more a matter of whether or not the cops are busy. I call them and tell them we're doing some testing, and if they're not too busy they will often come out and watch. I've always thought it would be funny to make a little movie of them clocking me blasting past a speed limit sign that said 35 MPH (since it's not a public road the posted limit signs are really more of a guideline than a rule), but I'm afraid to ask becaue they might not take kindly to having that kind of stuff distributed around on the Web. Anyway, best way to avoid trouble with the law is to do all your testing in some place where it's legal. Safe is nice too.

We actully have lots of roads that are rarely patrolled, and very few people around here drive the back roads anywhere near the posted limit. All the cops know me (and my cars), so I get away with more than I should, but running this car flat out on public roads is just more risk than I'm comfortable with. I think lots of people do high speed runs on Interstates when traffic is light or nonexistent, but the worst and nastiest crash I ever saw happened when a guy made a high speed run on a section of closed Interstate (I-75), back when I was just a kid, and I swore then that I'd never make high speed passes on an Interstate.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by INTJ,Nov 29 2007, 03:26 PM
Lessee, what is the rear lift at 150?
I'd describe it as terrifying. Starts to get uncomfortable past 130.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dmw16,Nov 30 2007, 10:11 AM
where are you guys finding cop free roads that you can do this in a safely?
Socal desert near mexico
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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You guys are too nuts for me! I've hit 100mph a few times, but never over 105mph.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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I hit ~230 km/h on a highway late at night...so that's about 140 mp/h i guess?

Emped has the got the description right: terrifying, but fun in the "holy crap I hope there's no small animals on the road otherwise I'm screwed" sorta way.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GRUNTS2K,Nov 30 2007, 10:25 AM
Well the MYs 00-mid 02 only had 2 banjo bolts. Depending on what VIN number you have in MY 02 depends if you have 2 or 4 banjo bolts. After that every model year has 4. What happens is, according to research, people I've spoken to; if you are above 100 MPH for an extended period of time you might score the cylinder walls due to not enough oil and possibly blow the motor. THe effects are greater if you are FI. This what was happening with the S2Ks in Europe that frequently travel over 100 MPH for an extended period of time on the autobahn. If any of this seems incorrect to some one with more knowledge please chime in. Solution to this problem is the banjo bolt DIY mod. I'm sure some one here can post a link.
All S2000's have 4 banjo bolts, none have two. There is one per piston. It is part of an oil squirter to cool the piston from the underside. The newer bolt has better oil flow, having four holes vs two. Honda TSB swapped older non U.S. cars to the new bolts due to piston overheating if driving at WOT for extended Autobahn-type runs. I don't know the exact failure modes, but it can't be pretty
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