Two question on the Type R's
Originally Posted by YBS1,Oct 5 2004, 01:09 PM
Agreed, I'm the type of person who would opt for the Type-R as well. However, the price would be a major issue, like I said in my first post...you may very well be into Corvette territory then, and if it was I couldn't give it the nod over a Vette for similar prices unless it performed beyond my current expectations of what a S2000-R would do. But that's just me, I'm sure some others may feel differently.
The vette are around 50k. I highly doubt and will put money on it if an STR would come close to that. Plus I hate to compare to other cars. I just want a car that I truly love to be better then it already is. I will never feel right in a vette.
I'm speaking of what you can actually get one for though. Of course this will partly depend upon the time of year, any rebates, etc., but you can get an 04 right now for ~40,000 give or take. Of course this doesn't include a Z06 or a C6, but give it a while and those C6's won't be commanding that nice little profit margin they have going on right now. Plus I have a lot of $$$ in GM Card earnings built up as well which further reduces that price if I were so inclined.
Of course the convertible would be a bit higher...I didn't take that into consideration for those who consider the droptop aspect to be vital.
Of course the convertible would be a bit higher...I didn't take that into consideration for those who consider the droptop aspect to be vital.
Originally Posted by YBS1,Oct 5 2004, 01:24 PM
Further, the slice of the overall market our beloved little "mainstream" edition holds is tiny as it is. Relatively few people in the general consumer market are willing to part with ~$33,000 for a 2-seat, RWD, convertible with little practicality and virtually no storage space what so ever. It's already "too hardcore" for most people the way it is, a Type-R would be more so.

The simplest explanation is there's virtually no market to justify the cost in producing such a car. I could easily imagine the average north american consumer shopping around for a sports coupe walking into an acura dealer back in 2001 looking at the ITR and saying "WTF?! This is the top of the line integra and A/C is an OPTION?! Where's my cruise control? Moonroof? Why is this car so god-damned loud? WTF am I paying for??" The more hardcore enthusiasts are few and far between. That's why they have the type-S here. To me, it's the 'north american type-r' (however contradictory it may sound). People here like it soft and comfy. i don't know any sales numbers, but i challenge one to find the sales numbers between the rsx-S and the ITR and i'm sure you'll know why honda doesn't make a s2000-R
IMO, the s2000 is bare bones enough as it is. THe only thing you could remove for a Type R model would be the A/C, and the power top.
That's not enough to warrant a new model, not to mention a s2k-R would be barely streetable at best, given how they are now in normal trim.
That's not enough to warrant a new model, not to mention a s2k-R would be barely streetable at best, given how they are now in normal trim.
Originally Posted by YBS1,Oct 5 2004, 09:42 AM
In fact, now that I think about it...Anyone wanting an S2000-R, they already have that, it's called a Lotus Elise. 

Retirement is in the near future for all these political cry babies that try and stop the American people from owning such cars. Before you know it, Gen X will be controlling the politics, so hopefully we will see some change in these area's. I can be 100% mistaken but I hope not
I believe they should have made a S2000 type R I seen the potentials of a modified S2000 and I think you can push the envelope a lot harder. I think at the end Type R are not for any reason as marketing just like the NSX-R they only made 500 units of the first Type R and the ITR they made about 2000 for US only. So as in Honda making money form Type R edition cars was probably never there real intention of making money from this line. If anything it just to show there racing technology and how they can be competitive with other carmaker. It just like the Boxster S, Z06, CSL, NSX-R, Mazda Speed Miata, and many other these are all low production models. Each manufacture made these "Racing" model to show what they can do and normally made in limited production. But I think the S2000 need a Type R but makes me wonder how fast it going to be when it becomes Type R. HMMM kind of scary.



