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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamcation,Oct 5 2004, 02:02 PM
A while back there was talk of type S that was produced, can't remember the details on it. All I know is that the side emblems had a red S on it to indicate that it was a type S
I believe you're thinking of the VGS (variable gear steering) model available in Japan. I don't think there was any difference other than the steering changes, and from my reading here I didn't get the impression it was well received either.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by YBS1,Oct 5 2004, 04:42 PM
I believe you're thinking of the VGS (variable gear steering) model available in Japan. I don't think there was any difference other than the steering changes, and from my reading here I didn't get the impression it was well received either.
No it was a type S
I think it was last year when it was posted
I'll try a search to see if it comes up
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Now there is many debates on why aren't any S2000 Type R are made.
If it was made chances are it won't come here to the U.S.

Why doesn't Honda bring any of the Type R's here?
The ITR was brought here for a couple years and many ppl who had it stolen would like to buy another, but now can't.

Why oh why Honda?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by S2000spoon,Oct 5 2004, 08:05 PM
Why doesn't Honda bring any of the Type R's here?
The ITR was brought here for a couple years and many ppl who had it stolen would like to buy another, but now can't.

Why oh why Honda?
Honda doesn't care. Their selling cars as it is and making enough money i assume.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Well I did a search for the type S and couldn't find it but I did find these

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...opic=37023&hl=

The F20c engine, displacement and design is certainly the maximum in can produce at this moment. Last time I recall, if Honda wants to do anything to produce what seems to be an "R version" then increasing the displacement will be the first thing, and if you increase the displacement it will no longer be an S2000.

If you've done your homework about how the S2K was engineered, researched, built and finally concepted then constructed. You should be probably aware that this seems merely a speculation. And the fact is, your engine happens to be red. Which is an important note here, since Honda will not simply apply red on a normal engine block ... And red happens to mean "R", I cannot understand how another "R" can or will be produce.

What we will be looking at will be enhancements, and more enhancements if possible so to a certain degree of impact not to overdo and spoil the original design and concept of the S2K. That is significantly reflected with the 02 version with the introduction of rear glass window, upgraded speakers, better clutch to handle the high revs and visual enhancements all round. That will no doubt be the trend and I cannot nor imagine Honda to have a different engine version for the same model lineup, it's just never been done because we already have an "R" engine block.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=809&hl=

A Real simple definition: "type S" is a designation Honda has used for a while now. You can say it means "sportier model" For example "type R" is considered the "top" designator and can be considered to mean "Racing"...

Almost every one receives this "type S" letter from Honda, it was created by Honda, not your dealer. The S2000 is considered a "type S"
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chriso59,Oct 5 2004, 09:01 AM
Then how does that explain the NSX Type-R?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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People forget that Acura dealers were giving away ITRs by '01. They were not hot sellers. Sure, the first few off the truck sold for way over MSRP because a few buyers were impatient. After a couple of months even SoCal dealers were selling them for thousands under MSRP. And it cost Honda tons of $$$ to re-certify that car, which is what happens when you introduce a new engine and modify the car's ride height.

Mitsubishi can't give away the lightweight "EVO RS" model. They've sold maybe 350 so far. That might be a big sales drive for Mitsu right now, but that's about ten minutes of Accord sales.

The stock NSX is NOWHERE near as unrefined as an S2000. By comparison it's practically a luxury car- quiet, refined and smooth. The NSX-R sacrifices some of that for better performance. The S2k is basically an "R' model right off the showroom floor. If you want to strip out the carpet, A/C, top motor, etc, go right ahead.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chriso59,Oct 5 2004, 10:01 AM
Then how does that explain the NSX Type-R?
NSX-R first appeared in 1992, so it was the grandfather of all Honda-R vehicles. It's Honda's halo car and is recognized all over the world as the pinnacle of Honda F1 engineering and technology embodied in one sleek all aluminum car. The S2000 is very significant as well, but it doesn't come near what the NSX embodies and represents for Honda and their racing heritage. (In response of course, as to why an NSX-R exists, but not an S2000-R) Of course, I would love to see an S2K-R though. Who knows...one day...maybe?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Hypothetically Honda did release a S2000 Type R..do you think they will opt for the 2.0 l engine or the 2.2 Torquier engine?..
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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2.0 w 9k Rpm seems to be a perfect fit for an R V.S. a 2.2 engine with more torque, dont ya think?..
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