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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Highrpmek,Apr 10 2005, 10:31 PM
The basis for this assumption; personal belief or experience, magazine article, hearsay, Honda salesman? Just curious. Everything I've seen and heard says the 04-05 is the best handling. Kinda makes sense to me also. Honda builds a roadster with performance and fun factor as the main goal, and makes it a worse performing car as the years progress. Refine the suspension geometry, add bigger tires, all to make the car perform worse? Interesting.
Yes they did. They made the car softer. If I'm not mistaken specifically the rearend. So steve's right >04 is a softer handleing car. Basically an early S is too close in handleing performance to really worry about. The answer to increase the speed is always the same supercharge. I don't know any other way to get near 280 and you'll actually get more between 290-310 if I'm not mistaken.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Helios8,Apr 12 2005, 09:35 AM
"Most people" don't know what they're talking about. I'm sorry to stray from the topic, but stupid Americans have always been a pet peeve of mine.
since you brought this up...
If you are right about your definition of sports cars, I'd hardly say anyone who doesn't know that specific definition or what makes a sports car is stupid. I don't know what the exact definition of a sports car is, though I will always call my s2000 and a Vette a sports cars, because I don't feel like consulting some car bible to get the exact definition. I'm not stupid because of this.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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Oh, on to the point I was originally going to post. I priced a regular Boxster, just for kicks, and the options I wanted came to around 54K. But the thing I noticed was that it's rated at 240 hp and 2855 lbs. That would seem to make the new Boxster a near dead-even match for the S2000. Probably easier to drive faster, too.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Helios8,Apr 12 2005, 06:35 AM
Sports cars don't have an abundance of convenience accessories. Sports cars are not heavy. Sports cars don't use oversized engines and tires to make up for their engineering shortcomings.

Technically, the Elise is the only sports car on the list. That is not saying the other cars can't be considered "sporty," or that they aren't great at what they do, but they're not true sports cars.

"Most people" don't know what they're talking about. I'm sorry to stray from the topic, but stupid Americans have always been a pet peeve of mine.
Say what you will about stupid Americans and about why the Vette isn't a true sports car. But the Vette had the fastest track times in this comparo. Yes, faster than the 911. Yes, much faster than the Elise. Looks like heavy with an "oversized" engine is working out okay.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by UNC04SuzukaBlue,Apr 12 2005, 07:09 AM
Say what you will about stupid Americans and about why the Vette isn't a true sports car. But the Vette had the fastest track times in this comparo. Yes, faster than the 911. Yes, much faster than the Elise. Looks like heavy with an "oversized" engine is working out okay.
I'm very happy for the Corvette. A Corvette is also faster than a TR4, a Bugeye Sprite, an MGB, and an Elan, but the Vette is still not a sports car, while the others are.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dcak,Apr 12 2005, 07:05 AM
I'm not stupid because of this.
I sincerely apologize as you are correct. A more accurate term would have been ignorant. I often hesitate to use it because it is wildly misused by the uneducated as an all encompasing, defamitory cop-out to influence a third party when the accuser cannot come up with any valid criticism. Much the same way "communist" was used in past decades.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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[QUOTE=UNC04SuzukaBlue,Apr 12 2005, 08:52 AM] Econo-roadster, huh? Ugly, huh? Looks pretty sweet to me. And at the risk of belaboring
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tkeedy,Apr 12 2005, 09:03 AM
If I WERE to be ABLE to put down the dough for a properly outfitted BS and it DIDN'T out do everything on my S2k I'd be pretty upset!
Absolutely. I'm always the first one to point out the exorbitant cost of the BS. My point was only that any S2000 owners who still think they can compete with a new BS stock for stock need to adjust their thinking. Things have changed.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by UNC04SuzukaBlue,Apr 12 2005, 07:09 AM
Say what you will about stupid Americans and about why the Vette isn't a true sports car. But the Vette had the fastest track times in this comparo. Yes, faster than the 911. Yes, much faster than the Elise. Looks like heavy with an "oversized" engine is working out okay.
Exactly. Just wait until the new Z06 comes out with 500hp, dry sump oil system, aluminum frame, the lowest drag coefficient of any street car and many other features that are going to allow this car to compete with high end exotics at a price in the $60,000-$70,000 range. And when I say compete with high end exotics, I mean $200,000+ cars.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Helios8,Apr 12 2005, 08:47 AM
I'm very happy for the Corvette. A Corvette is also faster than a TR4, a Bugeye Sprite, an MGB, and an Elan, but the Vette is still not a sports car, while the others are.


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