Why Blow?
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From: encino
All of this comes down to a matter of respect. what i mean is that we all must respect each other and what we do to out own cars. If all the cars in teh world were the same what would be the point of this forum. To ridicule someone for what they do to their own car because you dont like it, is plain ignorance. Calling an s2000 ricey because it FI or of its bofy kit or its wheels means you are just way too old to appreciate originality or just plain stupid.
the only reason i am writting this is becaus just today i was at an autocross event where i bumped into a built miata with a turbo. after the event we were screwing around and racing a bit. Let me tell you, that car was dam fast. and being an ex miata owner, there is no way to get that kinda power NA. i dont care what you do.
bottom line.... to each their own. different strokes for different folks.
the only reason i am writting this is becaus just today i was at an autocross event where i bumped into a built miata with a turbo. after the event we were screwing around and racing a bit. Let me tell you, that car was dam fast. and being an ex miata owner, there is no way to get that kinda power NA. i dont care what you do.
bottom line.... to each their own. different strokes for different folks.
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From: On the lakefront...
Originally posted by Prolene
High powered na is elegant, but Porsche chooses to use turbo to power its flagship model.
High powered na is elegant, but Porsche chooses to use turbo to power its flagship model.
Yea, let's keep this from being personal. I asked for ALL viewpoints...everyone has their communication styles and that's what makes the world go 'round. No mudflinging allowed on this thread, please...
Thank you...carry on.
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Originally posted by Shamu
Yes, I think it boils down to personal preference, but IMO there are cars that are 'meant' for FI, and cars that are not, and the S2K was not.
Yes, I think it boils down to personal preference, but IMO there are cars that are 'meant' for FI, and cars that are not, and the S2K was not.
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From: Timonium
I've thought about FI, but for now I won't do it. I have several concerns, all of them related to my intentions to keep this car for a long time. The first has to do with the durability of the engine -- I'm concerned it simply won't last as long with FI. The second has to do with the drive train, and for the same reason.
On the other side of the ledger, since I speak to Mark Digrappa frequently, I'm very aware of some the state-of-the art work being done on the engine, including some that is producing major horsepower gains while keeping it NA. My plan is to sit back and let others experiment, waiting for the dust to settle on all these questions until there's a consistent pattern of evidence. Since I plan to keep the car for many years, there's no reason to rush to a conclusion.
So far, I think the arguments for both sides on this have been quite compelling and well reasoned. This will be fun to read. Thanks for posing the question, Greg.
On the other side of the ledger, since I speak to Mark Digrappa frequently, I'm very aware of some the state-of-the art work being done on the engine, including some that is producing major horsepower gains while keeping it NA. My plan is to sit back and let others experiment, waiting for the dust to settle on all these questions until there's a consistent pattern of evidence. Since I plan to keep the car for many years, there's no reason to rush to a conclusion.
So far, I think the arguments for both sides on this have been quite compelling and well reasoned. This will be fun to read. Thanks for posing the question, Greg.
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From: Louisville
While I can certainly appreciate why someone would want to go with forced induction (seems close to an oxymoron...
), I won't be adding it to my S2000. Cost is one issue, as doing FI properly would require some pretty serious work, and quite a bit of my own time engineering the system. (I'm not aware of anyone who's already done so.) However, the larger issue is that I have a really strong desire to keep this car bone stock. Let me explain.
Growing up, my next door neighbor had a '63 Corvette with a 327 (which would lift the front tires off the ground in 1st gear), and a '67 with a 427 and 3 deuces. He kept both cars completely stock, and over the years, I learned to appreciate the beauty of what the early Corvette engineers had created. Had he cammed it, thrown on fat tires or aftermarket wheels, it would have destroyed (or at least dramatically altered) the incredible vision those talented boys at Chevy had formed into fiberglass.
Clearly, it's too early to tell if the S2000 will ever be considered a classic as both of those cars are now, but I remain just as blown away (if you'll excuse the expression in the context of this thread) with the whole package as I was when I saw the first spy photos in Automobile Magazine back in '99. If I mod the car in any way, it will be to add only a pre-lube system to give it as much life and longetivity as possible. In every other way, I remain satisfied with the compromises our friends at Honda made to bring this car to the market.
Everyone else can mod theirs all they want, and I'll appreciate what they do, whether it's for Autocrossing or just for the street. However, it reminds me of when I wanted to toss a V8 into a 1600cc Pinto a few years ago, and a buddy said, "Tim, why don't you just buy something that was DESIGNED to be a fast car instead?" I took his advice, and bought the Z28... and then the RX7... and then the Probe GT... and now the S2000.
Why no FI on my S2000? Call me a wimp, a dork, or just an old geezer, but it's fine with me just the way it rolled off the factory floor.
Tim
P.S. In the Maxima, I've got an Alpine 3-disc in-dash changer with Polks all around and an Alpine 5-channel amp & sub in the trunk. I won't be moving it to the S2000. I'd much rather listen to the 2.0 liter band under my Honda's hood play the 6-9K VTEC song than anything that comes on a CD.
), I won't be adding it to my S2000. Cost is one issue, as doing FI properly would require some pretty serious work, and quite a bit of my own time engineering the system. (I'm not aware of anyone who's already done so.) However, the larger issue is that I have a really strong desire to keep this car bone stock. Let me explain.Growing up, my next door neighbor had a '63 Corvette with a 327 (which would lift the front tires off the ground in 1st gear), and a '67 with a 427 and 3 deuces. He kept both cars completely stock, and over the years, I learned to appreciate the beauty of what the early Corvette engineers had created. Had he cammed it, thrown on fat tires or aftermarket wheels, it would have destroyed (or at least dramatically altered) the incredible vision those talented boys at Chevy had formed into fiberglass.
Clearly, it's too early to tell if the S2000 will ever be considered a classic as both of those cars are now, but I remain just as blown away (if you'll excuse the expression in the context of this thread) with the whole package as I was when I saw the first spy photos in Automobile Magazine back in '99. If I mod the car in any way, it will be to add only a pre-lube system to give it as much life and longetivity as possible. In every other way, I remain satisfied with the compromises our friends at Honda made to bring this car to the market.
Everyone else can mod theirs all they want, and I'll appreciate what they do, whether it's for Autocrossing or just for the street. However, it reminds me of when I wanted to toss a V8 into a 1600cc Pinto a few years ago, and a buddy said, "Tim, why don't you just buy something that was DESIGNED to be a fast car instead?" I took his advice, and bought the Z28... and then the RX7... and then the Probe GT... and now the S2000.
Why no FI on my S2000? Call me a wimp, a dork, or just an old geezer, but it's fine with me just the way it rolled off the factory floor.
Tim
P.S. In the Maxima, I've got an Alpine 3-disc in-dash changer with Polks all around and an Alpine 5-channel amp & sub in the trunk. I won't be moving it to the S2000. I'd much rather listen to the 2.0 liter band under my Honda's hood play the 6-9K VTEC song than anything that comes on a CD.