Thanks to Jason for information that is useful. Please keeps us posted on improvements to the oversteer quirk. I would rather not spin mine again.

I have noticed that the SO-3 rears (225) are prone to sliding a bit on both dry and wet pavement .. possibly more than the OEM SO-2's ... I plan to change the rears to SO-3 245's which has been suggested as a help to this problem for S 2000's.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Saini
[B]...The statement 'Quickly but not stupidly' is another way of saying not 100%.

 

I hate to say it but on this topic I agree with Bieg. Anyone who drives with this car anywhere near 100% on the street is just asking to wreck the car. I've even read in magazines that they rarely take a sports car beyond 70% on the street. There are too many variables to contend with. How many cars have you heard of being wrecked on the track? Not many. And of those that have, how many have wrecked as a result of characteristics that are attributable to the supposed handling "problems" of the S2K? The ONLY time I've seen a credible description of what could be described as a handling problem with this car was when it was used in Autocross with Racing tires. Personally, I've been in many situations with my stock S02's where I've gotten into easily controllable slides through corners at the track. If you're going to blame the car's handling at least define the parameters where you've had problems. By that I mean was it stock or what were the mods you made when you had problems. If you modified the car there is certainly the possibility that the mods you made contributed to any problems that might have occurred.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Saini
[B]I never stated the car was evil handling, nor an uncontrollable beast... merely that it had deficiencies that could be overcome if someone was so willing.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cedric Tomkinson
[B]

...We'd at least have the choice of being belted and bracered, or enjoying the car to the full.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Strike
[B]...If you're going to blame the car's handling at least define the parameters where you've had problems.

 

Guys wear braces!

Girls wear suspenders! Not so much now.

 

So are there things that an autocrosser would do to their suspension that a high-speed track student SHOULD NOT do to their car?

To make the car more predictable at the limit it sounds like I will choose to add the 31.8mm Mugen front sway bar. I also need to do some adjustments to the suspension settings because I know I will need some negative camber on the front to help make the tires live a little longer. I also see the back will require a change so I don't loose the effect of the front sway bar and people have offered to help me with those suspension settings, thanks. But back to the above question.

 

This car is NOT some evil beast! It is very predictable when driven properly. Since you are used to a properly set up front wheel drive track car which will oversteer readily if you lift in the middle of the corner, you already understand one of the S2k's traits. Just be prepared for a touch of occasional power oversteer and you're ready. Run an event and see for yourself before you do anything!

The car may benefit from a larger front bar ONLY if you plan on auto crossing it. Many have enjoyed chrisper response and more even track tire wear from slightly more aggressive alignment. Drop in some track brake pads (Carbotech Panther+, Porterfield R4s, or Hawk Blues) and you're ready to go! Have fun!!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Allan Haggai
[B]This car is NOT some evil beast!