Why is it that there are so many...
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From: Austin
Originally posted by jschmidt
OMG, this thread seems to have taken an unexpected turn toward the useful since I was last here.
OMG, this thread seems to have taken an unexpected turn toward the useful since I was last here.
Afterall, you do know who started this thread and who tried to steer it in the right direction.. hehe.
Literally.I knew this was going to be a controversial topic.... ethusiasts vs. the track junkies. So, I try my best to keep the flames/arguments down.
I'm glad this thread has gotten so long, but still remain useful to those searching for info on suspension in the future.
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From: Austin
Darn, just after I posted the above message it seems like the fire is still flickering.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jschmidt
[B]The word "Liberal" got demonized by people who said liberals believed things they never believed...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jschmidt
[B]The word "Liberal" got demonized by people who said liberals believed things they never believed...
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From: The BadLands
Accountibility is the key to most things! If people were more accountable their wouldn't be the need for so many prisons and so on.
Driving within your own knowledgable limits on the street is a must. There are to many enviromental obstacles to contend with. Your street ability is more of a defensive style of driving not offensive. But learning offensive skills can be a contributor to better defensive skills also. Either way, knowledge and experience is a need commodity when facing todays traffic situations. I think that first and foremost people who have bought the S 2000 have found a false since of security in it's ability to bob and weave through traffic. This gives most people a feeling of grandure which leads to over confidence. This means exceeding their own driving skills and ability. So they try more dangerous manuvers on the street which usually leads to accidents and or the development of poorer skills. This can later contribute to a more sever accidents.
Anyway you can see where this is going!
Driving within your own knowledgable limits on the street is a must. There are to many enviromental obstacles to contend with. Your street ability is more of a defensive style of driving not offensive. But learning offensive skills can be a contributor to better defensive skills also. Either way, knowledge and experience is a need commodity when facing todays traffic situations. I think that first and foremost people who have bought the S 2000 have found a false since of security in it's ability to bob and weave through traffic. This gives most people a feeling of grandure which leads to over confidence. This means exceeding their own driving skills and ability. So they try more dangerous manuvers on the street which usually leads to accidents and or the development of poorer skills. This can later contribute to a more sever accidents.
Anyway you can see where this is going!
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From: Mish-she-gan
Bieg,
Two pages ago I said I wasn't going to say any more on this subject. Please excuse me for not following my own principals but I'd like to make an observation and a request.
Bieg, you've repeatedly made your points. Anyone reading this thread would have to have an IQ lower then the tire pressure not to know where you stand on the subject. Restating the points over and over plus continually blaming drivers who have had a incident is contriubuting nothing NEW to subject. Please be considerate and give it a rest as we really do understand your position.
Two pages ago I said I wasn't going to say any more on this subject. Please excuse me for not following my own principals but I'd like to make an observation and a request.
Bieg, you've repeatedly made your points. Anyone reading this thread would have to have an IQ lower then the tire pressure not to know where you stand on the subject. Restating the points over and over plus continually blaming drivers who have had a incident is contriubuting nothing NEW to subject. Please be considerate and give it a rest as we really do understand your position.
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One last point on this subject (if anyone is even reading still...)
Every street car had compromises... our car is no exception. After driving our autocross modified car all year long and hopping in a stock '02 last sunday, the biggest thing I noticed was how 'floppy' the car felt. Ours doesn't ride any rougher, but it feels so much more planted. I wish everyone here could try my car, as it has all the character of the original with a much harder, sharper and more precise feel. Tuning out the factory's compromises has been a focus of the racing community and the aftermarket tuning community for years... why is the S2000 any different?
Every street car had compromises... our car is no exception. After driving our autocross modified car all year long and hopping in a stock '02 last sunday, the biggest thing I noticed was how 'floppy' the car felt. Ours doesn't ride any rougher, but it feels so much more planted. I wish everyone here could try my car, as it has all the character of the original with a much harder, sharper and more precise feel. Tuning out the factory's compromises has been a focus of the racing community and the aftermarket tuning community for years... why is the S2000 any different?