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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert O,Dec 29 2010, 09:09 AM
If the ECU wasn't programmed to limit it I have no doubt that the slightly longer stroke of the 2.2 would easily handle 9k. Flashpro can get it to mid 8's. My car has plenty of power where it sits. Only thing that needs modifying is my golf scores.
Flash yours to 9k, let us know how it works.

The only thing stopping me from an ap2 is the 8k (sorry 8.2K) redline.

I've driven a ap2, it for sure feels like it has more torque, but that's a combination of secondary shaft, heavier flywheel and of course the little extra torque.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 03 9g,Dec 29 2010, 08:02 AM
It's what makes an s2000 imo ...the "new ones" with 8k ...seem dumbed down to me a bit ...my bro had an ap2 and always asked to drive my car ...I rarely asked to drive his ...
Yep. I had to detune my car to 8k for a month, it sucked. Felt like every time the party was getting started it was time to leave.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chairmnofthboard,Dec 29 2010, 09:27 AM
Flash yours to 9k, let us know how it works.

The only thing stopping me from an ap2 is the 8k (sorry 8.2K) redline.

I've driven a ap2, it for sure feels like it has more torque, but that's a combination of secondary shaft, heavier flywheel and of course the little extra torque.
I have no intention of increasing the rpm limit as it's set. Neither does the OP from what I've read. Anything else is just speculative as to what it could or couldn't handle.We already know that flashpro stuck their neck out to 8500 on the Ap2.Is that because it flew apart at 8600?
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert O,Dec 29 2010, 09:36 AM
I have no intention of increasing the rpm limit as it's set. Neither does the OP from what I've read. Anything else is just speculative as to what it could or couldn't handle.We already know that flashpro stuck their neck out to 8500 on the Ap2.Is that because it flew apart at 8600?
I asked my tuner about revving an f20c to 9k. He said it would handle it, just not everyday all day like a f20c. Obviously the smaller stroke allows itself to higher revs.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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TODA valvetrain + AEM EMS can fix that safe and sound, the bottom end should have no problems
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica,Dec 29 2010, 12:37 PM
TODA valvetrain + AEM EMS can fix that safe and sound, the bottom end should have no problems
It's not just about floating valves. There are piston speeds you have to take into consideration. Keep in mind we are not talking a race engine here. We are talking someone who will drive their car daily.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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I'm taking them into consideration, the F22Cs rods and pistons are solid much more resilient than the head is. In an over-rev situation, what's the first thing to happen? The intake retainers go...and then the valves touch the pistons...I haven't see issues with the pistons/rods being the weak parts of our motors.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Some have suggested that an AP2 is probably out of your price range, but i assure you that isn't true. I nearly bought an '05 with 18k on the odometer for $14,500. You should easily find an AP2 with 50k+ within your price range.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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drive both and see which one you like more. both are reliable, both look pretty much the same, both have convertible tops, 4 wheels and brakes.

i prefer AP1 because it is more raw, you may prefer AP2 because it is more refined. the internet can't make the decision for you
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica,Dec 29 2010, 12:56 PM
In an over-rev situation, what's the first thing to happen? The intake retainers go...and then the valves touch the pistons...I haven't see issues with the pistons/rods being the weak parts of our motors.
I've seen the valves float causing the pistons to slam into the valves, breaking the retainers and popping the keepers loose. But yes, the pistons and rods are stronger than the retainers. Keep square in mind also.
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