as the years roll by, acceleration stays the same
You guys are beyond reason. Why didn't you get the S500? It was the "pure" S. The S2000 is the watered down version.
Now I see why Honda doesn't intorduce a new model. Why spend the R&D money when the buyers are people that don't believe in advancement anyway.
Now I see why Honda doesn't intorduce a new model. Why spend the R&D money when the buyers are people that don't believe in advancement anyway.
For what it is worth...I have a hard time thinking how Honda could have changed this in a way that would result in me wanting to buy the car. Anything they do would / could add weight, complexity and $$ to the car. It would also make it harder to work on / modify...
I bought and drive the car because it embodies what is important to me - no one else:
--Focus on handling
--4 cylinder / high RPM
--Damn good soft-top / convertible
--Easy to work on yourself (plenty of room, very simple)
--Lots of aftermarket support / options to modify/setup to your personal taste
--Not too much $$, so I don't feel bad with every pebble and scratch I get as I drive it on the road, track, or AutoX. This car is meant to be driven (my #3 car) and will not be a garage queen - ever
--Horsepower / power, yep that figured into my decision, and I found I wanted a bit more which the SC took car of easily
I like the fact that I can tinker with this, learn about car setup & handling, and in the process become a better driver while having a blast without worrying about $$55K going up in smoke if I spin it at the track.
Now - what would I like?
--Better rigidity
--Stock adjustable coil-overs
--Upgraded sway bar
--Decent stereo option from factory (aftermarket can run you $$)
--Higher RPM for 2.2L engine
--Stiffer clutch / shorter throw (I fixed with new clutch and clutch master)
--Lower weight
--volk style, size, weight rims + tires (235/265) as option
--Higher horsepower and torque without compromising current engine's character
Problem with most of these is that from the factory...they changes would be compromises and still not meet my specific desires, and most wouild cost me more $$ than just doing it myself (whichy I've done). I do have to admit that the 2.7L NA option is intriguing
I'm not getting rid of this car, but will own other cars down the road - I just think that his style / pure road-car is going to be extinct in the coming years and I plan on having something that lets me enjoy the original spirit and fun of the roadster. There just isn't anything else out there like this car - pretty amazing to me after so many years in production...
I bought and drive the car because it embodies what is important to me - no one else:
--Focus on handling
--4 cylinder / high RPM
--Damn good soft-top / convertible
--Easy to work on yourself (plenty of room, very simple)
--Lots of aftermarket support / options to modify/setup to your personal taste
--Not too much $$, so I don't feel bad with every pebble and scratch I get as I drive it on the road, track, or AutoX. This car is meant to be driven (my #3 car) and will not be a garage queen - ever
--Horsepower / power, yep that figured into my decision, and I found I wanted a bit more which the SC took car of easily
I like the fact that I can tinker with this, learn about car setup & handling, and in the process become a better driver while having a blast without worrying about $$55K going up in smoke if I spin it at the track.
Now - what would I like?
--Better rigidity
--Stock adjustable coil-overs
--Upgraded sway bar
--Decent stereo option from factory (aftermarket can run you $$)
--Higher RPM for 2.2L engine
--Stiffer clutch / shorter throw (I fixed with new clutch and clutch master)
--Lower weight
--volk style, size, weight rims + tires (235/265) as option
--Higher horsepower and torque without compromising current engine's character
Problem with most of these is that from the factory...they changes would be compromises and still not meet my specific desires, and most wouild cost me more $$ than just doing it myself (whichy I've done). I do have to admit that the 2.7L NA option is intriguing
I'm not getting rid of this car, but will own other cars down the road - I just think that his style / pure road-car is going to be extinct in the coming years and I plan on having something that lets me enjoy the original spirit and fun of the roadster. There just isn't anything else out there like this car - pretty amazing to me after so many years in production...
Originally Posted by nastinupe1,Sep 6 2007, 09:42 AM
You guys are beyond reason. Why didn't you get the S500? It was the "pure" S. The S2000 is the watered down version.
Now I see why Honda doesn't intorduce a new model. Why spend the R&D money when the buyers are people that don't believe in advancement anyway.
Now I see why Honda doesn't intorduce a new model. Why spend the R&D money when the buyers are people that don't believe in advancement anyway.
A factory turbo is not an unreasonable desire.
Again... ppl are never satisfied. Whichever way Honda rolls, there'll be still complaints. I personally think Honda is doing great and I simply like S2000 as the way it is. In fact there's something I like about the fact that there hasn't been any ultra major change since 1999. If any major upgrade were to put on s2k, I'm sure there'll be comments like "It's just not the s2k anymore" stuff. Anyways, I don't see there's a need for ppl to offer their "smart" ideas as to which direction and how strategically Honda should grow as if Honda engineers sit there drinking coffee everyday doing nothing. Honda isn't there to just please a couple of ppl on this forum who own s2k. Like some ppl mentioned, irregardless how some other cars are making bigger changes, I'd still always opt for s2k just simply because it is an s2000 and it's unique.
I always read about the frustration of people who say honda has not done anything to increase the power, and I understand that, although I agree with a previous post that power WAS in fact increased in 04 and 06 and slipped under the radar. I think the other thing that people are frustrated with was also that Honda did such a good job squeezing all that power out of the engine in the first place.
Would people be complaining about Honda not upping the power if simple bolts ons took care of it? Probably not.
Nobody would care if a Soltice GXP would hang with an S2000 if a $700 header would put the Solstice in the dust. But since all of the power solutions for this car carry huge pricetags, the fact that it is not easily modded for large increases seems to be a huge gripe that nobody seems to want to come out admit.
My MR2 Turbo kept me happy for a long time both because it was an fantastic car, but also because for $50 I could get a manual boost controller and get 50 hp. For a few more hundred, and exhaust would get me 20 more. Then a few hundred for a piggyback would net me 20 more hp. The S2000 needs thousands invested to get anything close to those increases, with the possible exception of emanage ult, but even that is limited before you need to add thousands to get to the next increment.
Would people be complaining about Honda not upping the power if simple bolts ons took care of it? Probably not.
Nobody would care if a Soltice GXP would hang with an S2000 if a $700 header would put the Solstice in the dust. But since all of the power solutions for this car carry huge pricetags, the fact that it is not easily modded for large increases seems to be a huge gripe that nobody seems to want to come out admit.
My MR2 Turbo kept me happy for a long time both because it was an fantastic car, but also because for $50 I could get a manual boost controller and get 50 hp. For a few more hundred, and exhaust would get me 20 more. Then a few hundred for a piggyback would net me 20 more hp. The S2000 needs thousands invested to get anything close to those increases, with the possible exception of emanage ult, but even that is limited before you need to add thousands to get to the next increment.
Originally Posted by nastinupe1,Sep 6 2007, 06:42 AM
You guys are beyond reason.
(And you still haven't explained how this potential "Type-R" is going to make my car better.)
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 6 2007, 03:49 PM
(And you still haven't explained how this potential "Type-R" is going to make my car better.)
It keeps me interested in the S2000 brand. Maybe even makes me a fanboy



Pretty much embodies all my thoughts exactly!




