changing Oil When Maintance Light Comes On
^its not calibrated for dino oil...its parameters are set from the factory which are based on driving conditions and mileage...it could come on at 5,000 miles or it could come on at 7,000 miles...the way i always looked at it was it was just a way to get people into the dealer to get work done...i change my oil every 4500 miles for synthetic and 3,000 miles for dino oil regardless of that light
But all of that is based off some predetermined scale of how many miles of 'mild' driving before an oil change, how many miles for 'severe duty', etc. Its those scales that had to be based on dino or synth. One would anly assume they used a dino based scale. If that is true, then the equivalent 'percentage remaining' if using synth would be higher at any given percentage remaining value displayed (percentage remaining as in how much breakdown of the oil has occurred, not how clean the oil is).
Obvioulsy, the best way to determine your oil usage is by actual analysis. Nothing is better at optimizing your oil change intervals. I should hope equally obvious is not everyone is gonna do that. If you're not gonna do that, its a good idea to change your oil, not simply based on mileage, but how much you thrashed the oil since your last change, and adjust based on that. Since that is not real easy to do (remember each rev you drove since last change and determine where on the scale you are now), its really cool that Honda does this for you.
There is no exact answer. an oil change is an inexpensive maintanance procedure and many of us do change out our synthetic on advise of the MM. This is not absolutly necessary, but there is a comforting feeling that we are taking very good care of our car. I also use Mobil-1 full syn.
I also go by the % remaining on the indicator. Usually try to get it right when it hits 15% (hate seeing that wrench, even though I know there's still a life left, and UOAs prove it). Also if I have a severe load any time during the OCI, such as a track day or canyon run, I change it roughly 10% sooner than usual, rough estimate. Of course YMMV, and the best advice is get a UOA done.
You are playing it safe if you change the oil earlier than it needs to be, and the only downside is to your wallet for the cost of the oil & filter (& time). You are also playing it safe if you are getting oil analysis done often. But that said, isn't the whole point of the oil minder to measure stuff like the extra load you placed on the oil due to a track day?
If the minder really works, then shouldn't the warning come on at the same level of oil breakdown if you did a couple track days as if you drove like granny? (the miles to reach that level of oil breakdown of course happening much later for granny). ie; hypothetical example its 15% after only 3.5K miles since you did some track days, vs next time you drive like granny and you get to like 5K miles before it hits 15%, but at that 15%, the oil should be equally 'used up' in both cases.
If you don't trust the minder, and instead go by miles, or analysis results, and maybe some gut feelings of how much beating you gave the oil since last change, that seems fine. But if you do trust the minder, that it truely knows how to compensate for the driving you have done, then wouldn't you always change your oil at the same percentage of use level every time?
If you really trust it, then wouldn't that change point be around 0%?
If you trust that they based the level of acceptable breakdown on the rate that dino oil (specifically, Honda oil) breaks down, and if you believe that synth breaks down slower than dino, then wouldn't you change the oil at some point after it reaches 0%?
I guess what I'm saying is, do you trust the minder or not?
If the minder really works, then shouldn't the warning come on at the same level of oil breakdown if you did a couple track days as if you drove like granny? (the miles to reach that level of oil breakdown of course happening much later for granny). ie; hypothetical example its 15% after only 3.5K miles since you did some track days, vs next time you drive like granny and you get to like 5K miles before it hits 15%, but at that 15%, the oil should be equally 'used up' in both cases.
If you don't trust the minder, and instead go by miles, or analysis results, and maybe some gut feelings of how much beating you gave the oil since last change, that seems fine. But if you do trust the minder, that it truely knows how to compensate for the driving you have done, then wouldn't you always change your oil at the same percentage of use level every time?
If you really trust it, then wouldn't that change point be around 0%?
If you trust that they based the level of acceptable breakdown on the rate that dino oil (specifically, Honda oil) breaks down, and if you believe that synth breaks down slower than dino, then wouldn't you change the oil at some point after it reaches 0%?
I guess what I'm saying is, do you trust the minder or not?
Yes correct its currently at 10% , I use mobile one ive had the car 1 year this week actually. I changed it last spring to mobil 1 full synthetic, now its saying its ready for a change but seeings how synthetic can be changed in longer intervals I was wondering if anybody just waited longer then when the reminder says its time for a change. Its been around 3500k since the my last change
Utah
P.S. WTF? Are you driving now? It's been snow owing for a week! I'm impressed.
Originally Posted by Ashton23' timestamp='1359395189' post='22297994
Yes correct its currently at 10% , I use mobile one ive had the car 1 year this week actually. I changed it last spring to mobil 1 full synthetic, now its saying its ready for a change but seeings how synthetic can be changed in longer intervals I was wondering if anybody just waited longer then when the reminder says its time for a change. Its been around 3500k since the my last change
Utah
P.S. WTF? Are you driving now? It's been snow owing for a week! I'm impressed.
other then that the S is a little red mountain goat though hahahaOn another note the oil reminder is now at 5% so i figure ill change it in another week or 2
You are playing it safe if you change the oil earlier than it needs to be, and the only downside is to your wallet for the cost of the oil & filter (& time). You are also playing it safe if you are getting oil analysis done often. But that said, isn't the whole point of the oil minder to measure stuff like the extra load you placed on the oil due to a track day?
If the minder really works, then shouldn't the warning come on at the same level of oil breakdown if you did a couple track days as if you drove like granny? (the miles to reach that level of oil breakdown of course happening much later for granny). ie; hypothetical example its 15% after only 3.5K miles since you did some track days, vs next time you drive like granny and you get to like 5K miles before it hits 15%, but at that 15%, the oil should be equally 'used up' in both cases.
If you don't trust the minder, and instead go by miles, or analysis results, and maybe some gut feelings of how much beating you gave the oil since last change, that seems fine. But if you do trust the minder, that it truely knows how to compensate for the driving you have done, then wouldn't you always change your oil at the same percentage of use level every time?
If you really trust it, then wouldn't that change point be around 0%?
If you trust that they based the level of acceptable breakdown on the rate that dino oil (specifically, Honda oil) breaks down, and if you believe that synth breaks down slower than dino, then wouldn't you change the oil at some point after it reaches 0%?
I guess what I'm saying is, do you trust the minder or not?
If the minder really works, then shouldn't the warning come on at the same level of oil breakdown if you did a couple track days as if you drove like granny? (the miles to reach that level of oil breakdown of course happening much later for granny). ie; hypothetical example its 15% after only 3.5K miles since you did some track days, vs next time you drive like granny and you get to like 5K miles before it hits 15%, but at that 15%, the oil should be equally 'used up' in both cases.
If you don't trust the minder, and instead go by miles, or analysis results, and maybe some gut feelings of how much beating you gave the oil since last change, that seems fine. But if you do trust the minder, that it truely knows how to compensate for the driving you have done, then wouldn't you always change your oil at the same percentage of use level every time?
If you really trust it, then wouldn't that change point be around 0%?
If you trust that they based the level of acceptable breakdown on the rate that dino oil (specifically, Honda oil) breaks down, and if you believe that synth breaks down slower than dino, then wouldn't you change the oil at some point after it reaches 0%?
I guess what I'm saying is, do you trust the minder or not?
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