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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS,Apr 27 2007, 08:40 AM
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Question for Yflyer: did you photoshop your car in Slow's original avatar picture or did you actually drive up to that exact same point to take yours?
Either way:
Both pictures are from ther infamous Dragon. Most likely shot by Killboy.com. There are thousands of similar pictures in the same location.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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JAHumphrey : thanks for the explanation.

Quote from TCDesign website:
Honda S2000 Trap door baffled oil pan. We start with a brand new oil pan from Honda and add a baffle the traps the oil on three sides. Aluminum trap doors keep the oil trapped near the oil pump when you need it most. Track tested on many top west coast racecars with great success. No more starving the number two rod bearing!
Well... succes minus 1.
IMO its time to count to ten and pick up the phone.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Billman250,Apr 27 2007, 04:11 AM
I'd be mighty pissed at the makers of that pan.


Looks like shoddy welding cost you an engine.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TubeDriver,Apr 27 2007, 09:05 AM


Looks like shoddy welding cost you an engine.
Not really. The weld is still holding. Looks like poor design. Like SpitfireS said, the thing was probably vibrating (or being pushed/pulled by the oil sloshing around), and eventually fatigued and snapped in half. Probably another weld on the end would've given it some more strength.

You should definitely get in touch with the mfrs of the pan & give them a piece of your mind. I doubt you'll get any compensation for it, though (i.e., they're probably not going to repair your engine).
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Sorry to hear that Bryan. Let me know if you you need an extra set of hands this weekend, I'll be in the upstate from tonight until Sunday.


I agree with everyone on here, the manufacturer of the oil pan is to blame. Their shoddy product casued the problem it was supposed to be preventing. You probably won't get any compensation out of them, but you should at least let them know so they can determine if it's an actual design flaw. A couple more situations like yours, and their reputation is toast.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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bad bad bad...
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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This provides a fine example of why it's not necessarily a great thing to use race parts on a street car.

I have several TC Designs parts on my car, and Tony has a reputation for good customer service. One of his other products did have a fatigue issue, and he did a recall on it, replacing the part with a new design. So I expect he'll want to know about this.

However, I don't have one of his oil pans on my car. IMO, this is a case of not fixing what isn't broken. I've never been convinced that a baffled oil pan is going to be useful at all, and it's especially not going to be useful on the street. Up until now, I've kind of figured that it's probably not hurting anything to have one, but any time you add any new parts you also add a bunch of new (unknown!) failure modes to go along with them.

I'm very curious why SC Highlander installed the pan in the first place. It seems that you have an oil pressure gauge. Were you seeing low oil pressure at times? Did the pan solve that (until now)?

There is a joint responsibility principle that applies here. The manufacturer has to do his best to make a product that does not fail, but the buyer has to understand that race parts are not tested to the same level as the OEM parts, and that they are, in essence, acting as beta testers for the product.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Billman250,Apr 27 2007, 02:11 AM
I'd be mighty pissed at the makers of that pan.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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mike garrison,

i'm curious, which other part failed due to fatigue and was recalled?
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jyeung528,Apr 27 2007, 12:25 PM
i'm curious, which other part failed due to fatigue and was recalled?
The original design of the anti-bumpsteer kit. Which I do have on my car, so I'm personally trusting the redesigned part.
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