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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 05:20 AM
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Hi guys, I ran into this last week on my 2001 S2000: I tried to start the engine but accidentally released the 'START BUTTON' before the car actually started. I heard the sound of the starter and thought it should be good for like 0.5~1.0 second. However it seemed that I released the button too soon for the car to start. So before switching the key back to 'OFF', I tried again to start the car by pushing down the 'START BUTTON' but the starter just couldn't make it. I could hear the motor sound but that would last for almost 5 seconds without successfully igniting the vehicle!

What's the mechanism behind this and what's the problem here? Is it normal for this to happen?

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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 07:32 AM
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I would check the battery. if it wasn't changed for last 3~4 yrs, it may have lost its ability to charge fully.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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It sounds like you are used to a modern push to start where you don't control the starter. You just press and release. On our cars of course its more like a bike, and you hold the button until the engine fires. You control the starter.

So if you released button before engine fired, you should just be able to press it again right away, and start the engine. No need to cycle key off and back on again.

So why did it take like 5 full seconds to start the second time? I suspect something like engine flooded, and it took those cycles to purge out the excess fuel. That the intial attempt got fuel going into cylinders, but not ignited.

I wouldn't worry about it.

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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
It sounds like you are used to a modern push to start where you don't control the starter. You just press and release. On our cars of course its more like a bike, and you hold the button until the engine fires. You control the starter.

So if you released button before engine fired, you should just be able to press it again right away, and start the engine. No need to cycle key off and back on again.

So why did it take like 5 full seconds to start the second time? I suspect something like engine flooded, and it took those cycles to purge out the excess fuel. That the intial attempt got fuel going into cylinders, but not ignited.

I wouldn't worry about it.

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Let me elaborate:
After failing to start it on first attempt because of early letting off the button, I just couldn't start it on the second attempt either. The thing with the 5 secs was that: On second attempt, I pressed it for almost 4~5 secs and I only heard the motor starting sound. The engine just didn't come alive. I was afraid of getting my engine damaged so after holding the button for that long, I released it, cycled the key off, back on, waited for 3 secs with battery on and tried to ignite again. Thank God it worked as usual.

Well before this happened, everything worked fine. And.. I didn't worry too much about it until you said something like engine flooded.. At least I know that is a big deal.

Thanks so much!
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawrenceh
Originally Posted by Car Analogy' timestamp='1471621310' post='24043092
It sounds like you are used to a modern push to start where you don't control the starter. You just press and release. On our cars of course its more like a bike, and you hold the button until the engine fires. You control the starter.

So if you released button before engine fired, you should just be able to press it again right away, and start the engine. No need to cycle key off and back on again.

So why did it take like 5 full seconds to start the second time? I suspect something like engine flooded, and it took those cycles to purge out the excess fuel. That the intial attempt got fuel going into cylinders, but not ignited.

I wouldn't worry about it.

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Let me elaborate:
After failing to start it on first attempt because of early letting off the button, I just couldn't start it on the second attempt either. The thing with the 5 secs was that: On second attempt, I pressed it for almost 4~5 secs and I only heard the motor starting sound. The engine just didn't come alive. I was afraid of getting my engine damaged so after holding the button for that long, I released it, cycled the key off, back on, waited for 3 secs with battery on and tried to ignite again. Thank God it worked as usual.

Well before this happened, everything worked fine. And.. I didn't worry too much about it until you said something like engine flooded.. At least I know that is a big deal.

Thanks so much!
4-5 seconds of not starting will not cause damage. Next time cycle the key right after the initial no start.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 08:16 AM
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This is normal. I've done the same thing and it always cranks way longer on the second try, presumably due to flooding the engine.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MattZ28
This is normal. I've done the same thing and it always cranks way longer on the second try, presumably due to flooding the engine.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by S_DosMil
Originally Posted by Lawrenceh' timestamp='1471622765' post='24043113
[quote name='Car Analogy' timestamp='1471621310' post='24043092']
It sounds like you are used to a modern push to start where you don't control the starter. You just press and release. On our cars of course its more like a bike, and you hold the button until the engine fires. You control the starter.

So if you released button before engine fired, you should just be able to press it again right away, and start the engine. No need to cycle key off and back on again.

So why did it take like 5 full seconds to start the second time? I suspect something like engine flooded, and it took those cycles to purge out the excess fuel. That the intial attempt got fuel going into cylinders, but not ignited.

I wouldn't worry about it.

Sent from my SM-G920P using IB AutoGroup
Let me elaborate:
After failing to start it on first attempt because of early letting off the button, I just couldn't start it on the second attempt either. The thing with the 5 secs was that: On second attempt, I pressed it for almost 4~5 secs and I only heard the motor starting sound. The engine just didn't come alive. I was afraid of getting my engine damaged so after holding the button for that long, I released it, cycled the key off, back on, waited for 3 secs with battery on and tried to ignite again. Thank God it worked as usual.

Well before this happened, everything worked fine. And.. I didn't worry too much about it until you said something like engine flooded.. At least I know that is a big deal.

Thanks so much!
4-5 seconds of not starting will not cause damage. Next time cycle the key right after the initial no start.
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Yeah sure. Thanks a lot.
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